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  1. Arnold II De Flandres: Birth: Dec 961 in Flandres. Death: 988 in Chapel DE St Laurent, France

  2. Jean De Conteville: Birth: Abt 962 in Conteville, Eure, Normandy, France. Death: 1012 in Conteville, Eure, Normandy, France

  3. Bertha Comtesse Of Flandres: Birth: Abt 965 in <, Flanders, France>.


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Notes
a. Note:   COUNT OF FLANDERS & ARTOIS; KING OF JERUSALEM BIBLIOGRAPHY: Brandenburg, Erich, Die Nachkommen Karls des Grossen, Faksimile-Nachdruck von 1935 (Facsimile reproduction of 1935), mit Korrekturen und Erganzungen versehen von (with corrections and additions provided by) Manfred Dreiss und Lupold v. Lehsten. Neustadt an der Aisch:Verlag Degener, 1995. NYPL ATH (Charlemagne) 96-4768. Moriarty, G Andrews, Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III And Queen Philippa. Salt Lake: Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, 1985. LDS Film#0441438. nypl#ARF-86-2555. Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales. London: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977. Nypl ARF+ 78-835. Redlich, Marcellus Donald R Von, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants. Order of the Crown of Charlemagne, 1941. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. I.1: Die frankischen Konige und die Konige und Kaiser, Stammesherzoge, Kurfursten, Markgrafen und Herzoge des Heiligen Romischen Reiches Deutscher Nation. Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio Klostermann, 1998. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. I.2: Premysliden, Askanier, Herzoge von Lothringen, die Hauser Hessen, Wurttemberg und Zahringen. Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio Klostermann, 1999. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. I: Die Stammesherzoge, Die Weltlichenkurforsten, Die Kaiserlichen, Koniglichen und Grossherzoglichen Familien. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1980. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. II: Die Ausserdeutschen Staaten Die Regierenden Hauser der Ubrigen Staaten Europas. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1984. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. VI: Familien des Alten Lotharingien I. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978. Tapsell, R. F., Monarchs, Rulers, Dynasties and Kingdoms of the World. New York: Facts on File Publications, 1983. Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. RESEARCH NOTES: Count of Flanders [Ref: Weis AR7 #162, ES I.1 #11, Tapsell Dynasties p198, Paget HRHCharles p54] 958: co-Count of Flanders [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p10] 958-962: Count of Flanders [Ref: Tapsell Dynasties p198] ---------------- [3105393.ged] asa 11/1/0962 Children 1. *Arnold II Flanders b: ABT 0949 in Flandres,France 2. *Bertha Flanders b: ABT 0987 in Flanders,France 3. *Jean De Conteville b: 0969 in Conteville,France[all93.ged] BIRT: ROLE CHIL @[email protected] DEAT: ROLE DEAD @[email protected][mwballard.ged] 1 NAME Baldwin III of /Flanders/ 2 SOUR S033320 3 DAT A 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT . 940 2 PLAC of, Flanders, France 2 SOUR S033320 3 DAT A 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 DEAT 2 DATE 1 JA N 961/62 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Ja n 17, 2001 [De La Pole.FTW] Sources: RC 141; K and Q of Britain; Coe; A. Roots; Smallwo od; AF; Kraentzler 1157. RC: Baldwin III, Count of Flande rs, Co-regent with his father. Count of Artois and Flanders . K: Boudouin II, "le Jeune". Count de Flandre and Boulog ne.[lorenfamily.ged] LAID THE BASIS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL GREATNESS OF THE REGI ON BY ESTABLISHING THE WOOL AND SILK INDUSTRIES AT GHENT AND INSTITUTING A NNUAL FAIRS AT BRUGGE.[brownlee.ged] 1 NAME Baldwin III of /Flanders/ 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT. 940 2 PLAC of, Flanders, France 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 DEAT 2 DATE 1 JAN 961/62 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 [De La Pole.FTW] Sources: RC 141; K and Q of Britain; Coe; A. Roots; Smallwood; AF; Kraentzler 1157. RC: Baldwin III, Count of Flanders, Co-regent with his father. Count of Artois and Flanders. K: Boudouin II, "le Jeune". Count de Flandre and Boulogne. Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . ." (162:19). "Europaeische Stammtafeln", Band II, Tafeln 5-6. ----------------------- The following information (and advice) is contained in a post-em from Curt Hofemann, [email protected]: Hie thee to Stewart Baldwin's "Henry Project" for scholarly research on this person (& much more): http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/henry.htm Baldwin III ruled briefly as joint count with his father Arnulf I, but died before his father. Count Baldwin's name appears in lists of abbots of St. Bertin [Monumenta Germaniae Historica, Scriptores series, 13, 391, 607], and he would appear to have held that office for a short period before his death. [Ref: Henry Project] Possible illegitimate son (status uncertain): Ascelin (Azelin) or Albert de Tronchiennes, bishop of Paris, 1016-1018. The History of the Bishops of Cambrai states that Ascelin (or Albert, as he is called in some sources) was an illegitimate son of count Baldwin of Flanders. [Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium, MGH SS 7, 448]. If this is accurate, Baldwin III would be the only count of Flanders named Baldwin who would make a chronologically feasible father for Ascelin. [L�eon Vanderkindere, La Formation Territoriale des Principautes Belge au Moyen Age (2 vols., 2nd ed., Brussels, 1902, reprinted 1981) 1, 293], lists Ascelin as a son of Baldwin, without citing a source, but neither Erich Brandenburg, Die Nachkommen Karls des Gro�en (Frankfurt, 1964) norKarl Ferdinand Werner, 'Die Nachkommen Karls des Gro�en bis um das Jahr 1000 (1.-8. Generation)', Karl der Gro�e 4 (1967) mention him. His biography in Dictionnaire de Biographie Fran�caise 3, 1238-40 states that he was very probably the son of Arnulf I, and then contradicts this statement by calling Arnulf II a brother of Ascelin. The DBF article makes Ascelin a provost of the monastery of Saint-Marie in Tronchiennes as early as 951, which, if true, would chronologically rule out Ascelin's affiliation as a son of Baldwin III. However, this date is suspicious, as it is 65 years before Ascelin became bishop, and the next event mentioned in the biography is in 995. [Ref: Henry Project] Falsely attributed daughters: Bertha (existence doubtful), m. Aymar, count of Gen�eve (existence doubtful). [P. Anselme, Histoire Genealogique et Chronologique de la Maison Royale de France, ... (1726), 2, 715. She has also been falsely attached to Baldwin's father Arnulf I.] Jeanne, mother of Wolbodo, bishop of Li�ege. [L�eon Vanderkindere, La Formation Territoriale des Principautes Belge au Moyen Age (2 vols., 2nd ed., Brussels, 1902, reprinted 1981), 1, 293, citing Meyer, Rerum Flandr., 67, with a remark that the attribution is in error] [Ref: Henry Project] Regards, Curt
b. Note:   BI8081
Note:   Sources for this Information: date: (940) [Ref: ES II #5] abt 940 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p10, Moriarty Plantagenet p14], parents: [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p10, Moriarty Plantagenet p14, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p235, Watney WALLOP #408, Weis AR7 #162], father: [Ref: ES II #5, Tapsell Dynasties p198], mother: [Ref: ES II #5 (with corr in III.1)]
c. Note:   DI8081
Note:   Sources for this Information: date: [Ref: ES I.1 #11, ES II #5] 1 Jan 961/2 [Ref: Weis AR7 #162] 962 [Ref: ES I #8] Sources with Inaccurate Information: date: 1 Nov 962 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p10, Moriarty Plantagenet p17, Paget HRHCharles p54, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p235] 961 [Ref: Watney WALLOP #408] Nov 962 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p14]
d. Note:   NF10699
Note:   Sources for this Information: date: [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p10, ES I #8, ES I.1 #11, ES II #5, Moriarty Plantagenet p14, Moriarty Plantagenet p17, Paget HRHCharles p54] about 961 [Ref: Redlich CharlemagneDesc p235] first marriage of Matilda [Ref: ES I.2 #202, ES VI #127], child: [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p10, ES II #5, Moriarty Plantagenet p14, Paget HRHCharles p54, Redlich CharlemagneDesc p183, Weis AR7 #162] Sources with Inaccurate Information: names: Baldwin III Count Of Flanders & Maud (#11266) dau Conrad King of Burgundy [Ref: Watney WALLOP #408]


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