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  1. Josceline Harcourt Du Ponteaudemer: Birth: Abt 978 in Saint Vaast d'Equiqueville, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France. Death: 7 Feb 1050

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1. Title:   de crepon.ged
2. Title:   Robert de Brus.ged
3. Title:   Emma of Brittany.ged
4. Title:   The Magnificent.ged

Notes
a. Note:   AKA Senfrie of Arques Eldest sister of Gunnor; wife of the unnamed forester from the area of St. Vaast d'Equiqueville. It was her charms which are said first to have attracted the attentions of Duke Richard I. She appears to have had at least one daughter, Joscelina, wife of Hugh de Montgomery. (Torigny makes Joscelina daughter of another sister, Wevia, but a contemporary of Torigny, in demonstrating the genealogical impediment to a marriage of a bastard of Henry I to a Montgomery descendant specifically calls Joscelina's mother Senfria, and the inheritance by the Montgomerys of large holdings suggests that Joscelina was a significant coheiress to her parents, which does not match Wevia's family where the two sons would be expected to acquire most of the family land.) [The Family of Gunnor, duchess of Normandy <http://www.algonet.se/~] b.c. 942; dau of Herbastus de Crepon and Gunnhild Olafsdottir; m. Tourade de Pontaudemer. [Larry Overmire <[email protected], 2 Apr 2003] [jweber.ged] Turton has Eva/Dulceline married to Tourade de Pontaudemer, and mother of Josceline. According to Todd A. Farmerie & Alan B. Wilson, citing the latest works, Senfrie was mother of Josceline, but she married a forester of St. Vaast, while her sister Duvelina married Turulf de Pont Audemer. ------------------ The following is excerpted (full post is in notes under father) from a post to SGM, 3 Dec 1996, by Todd Farmerie: From: Todd A. Farmerie ([email protected]) Subject: Robert de Torigny and the family of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval Date: 1996/12/03 Gunnor had at least three sisters, of which the oldest appears to have been Senfria (Seinfreda), who was wife of the (unnamed) forester from the area of St. Vaast d'Equiqueville, and it was her charms which are said first to have attracted the attentions Duke Richard I. She appears to have had at least one daughter, Joscelina, wife of Hugh de Montgomery. (Torigny makes Joscelina daughter of another sister, Wevia, but a contemporary of Torigny, in demonstrating the genealogical impediment to a marriage of a bastard of Henry I to a Montgomery descendant specifically calls Joscelina's mother Senfria, and the inheritance by the Montgomerys of large holdings suggests that Joscelina was a significant coheir to her parents, which does not match Wevia's family where two sons would be expected to acquire most of the family land.) Hugh de Montgomery and Joscelina had a son Roger, but contrary to Torigny's statements, he was not the Conquest baron of that name, but instead his father. By a wife possibly named Emma, Roger had: Hugh; Roger (who married Mabel of Belleme and played a significant role in pre-Conquest Normandy); William (who murdered cousin Osbern); Robert, and Gilbert. 3. RESEARCH NOTES: wife of one of the foresters of Richard I [Ref: White Gunnor p57] married an unnamed forester from the area of St Vaast d'Equiqueville [Ref: Farmerie Gunnor] m. forester of the Duke of Normandy at Sauqueille near Arques [Ref: Wagner PedigreeProgress #46] From Gesta Normannorum Ducum, Rogert de Torigni's autographed redaction (trans. van Houts): "Because we have refered to Countess Gunnor on account of Roger de Montgomery's mother, her niece, I should like to write down the story as reported by people of old of how Gunnor cane to be Duke Richard's wife. One day when Duke Richard was told of the celebrated beauty of the wife of one of his foresters, who lived at a place called Equiqueville near the town of Arques, he deliberately went hunting there in order to see for himself whether the report he had learned from several folk was true. While staying in the forester's house, the duke was so struck by the beauty of his wife's face that he summonedhis host to bring his wife, called Sainsfrida, that night to his bedchamber. Very sadly the man told this to Sainsfrida, a wise woman, who comforted him by saying that she would send in her place her sister Gunnor, a virgin even more beautiful than her. And thus it happened. Once the duke perceived the trick he was delighted that he had not committed the sin of adultery with another man's wife. . . . Apart from Sainsfrida, Gunnor had two sisters, Wevia and Duvelina. The latter (Duvelina)*, with the help of the countess, who was a very wise woman, married Turulf of Pont-Audemer. He was the son of someone called Torf, after whome several towns are called Tourville to the present day. Turulf's brother was Turketil, father of Ansketil of Harcourt. Turulf had by his wife Humphrey of Vieilles, father of Roger of Beaumont. The third of Countess Gunnor's sisters (Wevia)* married Osbern de Bolbec, by whom she bore the first Walter Giffard, and then Godfrey, father of William of Arques. . . ." * The original manuscript, of which several copies survive, did not further identify these sisters, other than as "the latter" and "the third". This resulted in a certain degree of confusion, since Duvelina is actually named third, but had already been described as "the latter". However, in Robert's autographed copy, he has specifically inserted their names, which removes all ambiguity. Thus we have Sainsfrida married to the unnamed forester of (St. Vaast d')Equiqueville, Wevia married to Osbern de Bolbec, and Duvelina married to Turulf de Pont-Audemer. [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 8/25/1999-133016] Gunnor had at least three sisters, of which the oldest appears to have been Senfria (Seinfreda), who was wife of the (unnamed) forester from the area of St. Vaast d'Equiqueville, and it was her charms which are said first to have attracted the attentions Duke Richard I. She appears to have had at least one daughter, Joscelina, wife of Hugh de Montgomery. (Torigny makes Joscelina daughter of another sister, Wevia, but a contemporary of Torigny, in demonstrating the genealogical impediment to a marriage of a bastard of Henry I to a Montgomery descendant specifically calls Joscelina's mother Senfria, and the inheritance by the Montgomerys of large holdings suggests that Joscelina was a significant coheir to her parents, which does not match Wevia's family where two sons would be expected to acquire most of the family land.) Hugh de Montgomery and Joscelina had a son Roger, but contrary to Torigny's statements, he was not the Conquest baron of that name, but instead his father. By a wife possibly named Emma, Roger had: Hugh; Roger (who married Mabel of Belleme and played a significant role in pre-Conquest Normandy); William (who murdered cousin Osbern); Robert, and Gilbert. Father: Herbastus Forester of Arque b: ABT 911 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy Mother: Gunnhild Olafsdottir b: 923 in Sweden Marriage 1 Forester of St. Vaast d'Equiqueville b: ABT 950 in St. Vaast d'Equiqueville, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy Children Joscelina de St. Vaast d'Equiqueville b: ABT 978 in St. Vaast d'Equiqueville, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy
b. Note:   BI135971
Note:   Sources for this Information: date: eldest sister [Ref: Farmerie Gunnor], sister: Gunnor Duchess of Normandy [Ref: ES III.4 #695, Farmerie Gunnor, Keats-Rohan RobertTorigny p24, Wagner PedigreeProgress #46, White Gunnor p57]
c. Note:   NF76645
Note:   Sources for this Information: names: one of the foresters of Richard I & Senfrie [Ref: ES III.4 #695, Farmerie Gunnor, Wagner PedigreeProgress #46, White Gunnor p57], child: [Ref: Farmerie Gunnor, Moriarty Plantagenet p44, Wagner PedigreeProgress #46, White Gunnor p60]


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