Gerberga Von Gleiberg: Birth: ABT 968 TO ABT 973 in Burg Gleiberg, Grafschaft Gleiberg (Present Kreis Gie�en), Herzogtum Franken (Franconia, Present Hesse), Heiliges R�omisches Reich (Present Germany). Death: Aft 1036 in Kinziggau, Herzogtum Franken (Franconia, Present Hesse), Heiliges R�omisches Reich (Present Germany)
Otto Von Hammerstein In Wetterau: Birth: Abt 975. Death: Abt 5 Jun 1036
Irmentrude Of Gleiberg: Death: Aft 995
Note: RESEARCH NOTES: Not everyone in the past has given Heribert of Kinziggau as the husband of Irmintrude. Vanderkindere (1902) vol. 1, pp. 164ff. (see table p. 179) stated that Irmintrude married first to a count Richard (parent of NN, wife of Frederick) and then to Arnoul de Florennes, but his theory is based on little more than the identification of two women named Irmintrude. The attribution of Heribert as Irmintrude's husband was apparently first proposed by Schenk zu Schweinsberg, Genealogische Studien zur Reichsgeschichte I & II, in Archiv fr hessische Geschichte und Altertumskunde 3 (1904), 6 (1909), and has been widely accepted since then. Although I have not seen this work by Schenk zu Schweinsberg, I have picked up the main outline of the argument from other sources, primarily Hlawitschka and Jackman. The basic primary source for this is "Genealogia Ottonis et Irmingardis", a short item found associated with documents from the synod of Seligenstadt (1023), which discussed, among other things, the canonically prohibited marriage of Otto of Hammerstein and Irmingard of Verdun. The item is short enough to quote in full: "Gebehard et Udo nepotes, fi1ii duorum fratrum. Gebehard genuit Cunonem. Udo genuit Ottonem. Cuno genuit Cunonem. Heribertus genuit Ottonem. Item ex a1ia parte Godefridus et Gerbirhc nepos et neptis. Godefridus genuit Irmingardam. Gerbirhc genuit Imizam. Imiza genuit 0ttonem." [The above is quoted in both Hlawitschka (p. 49) and Jackman (p. 18)] Of these, it is the second that is relevant to the identity of Frederick's father-in-law. It tells how Otto of Hammerstein (son of Heribert of Kinziggau) was related to his wife Irmingard, but without giving the full details of the earlier generations: NN _________|_________ | | NN NN | | Godefridus Gerbirhc | | Irmingardis Imiza | Otto This shows that Heribert's wife was a certain Imiza, daughter of Gerberga. As Imiza is a nickname for Irmintrude, it was suggested that Otto's mother Imiza/Irmintrude, daughter of a Gerberga, was the same person as Frederick of Luxemburg's mother-in-law Irmintrude, also daughter of a Gerberga. A piece of supporting evidence beyond the identification of the mother daughter pair Gerberga-Irmintrude can be noted. A daughter of Frederick of Luxemburg, named Imiza (note the use of the same nicname as Heribert's wife) called "de Glizperch" or "de Glizberch" (i.e., of Gleiberg), was the wife of count Welf of the "first" Welf family, and mother of Cuniza, who married Adalberto Azzo of Este and became ancestor of the "second" house of Welf. [See Genealogia Welforum, MGH SS 13, 734; Historia Welforum Weingartensis, MGH SS 21, 460.] It appears that Gleiberg (located in Konradiner territory) came into the possession of the house of Luxemburg through the marriage of Frederick with Heribert's daughter, but I have not seen the direct evidence for this cited. The Luxemburg connections to Gleiberg are clear from the Welf genealogies mentioned above. I would still like to see direct evidence placing the Konradiners in possession of Gleiberg. In any case, it seems that the above identification of the Irmintrudes and Gerbergas is widely accepted. [Ref: Stewart Baldwin SGM 4/9/2002-004050] --------------- http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA.htm#ImizaMHeribert daughter of Megingoz and Gerberga (dau of Gottfried Graf Matfried and Ermentrude) married Heribert Pfalzgraf 4 children: Otto von Hammerstein m Irmgard (dau of Godfroi & Mathilde) Gebhard unknown daughter m Friedrich Graf Gerberga m Heinrich von Schweinfurt
Note: Sources for this Information: parents: [Ref: ES I.1 #8, John Carmi Parsons SGM 9/17/1998-085521, Moriarty Plantagenet p206, Moriarty Plantagenet p23, Stewart Baldwin SGM 4/9/2002-004050], father: [Ref: ES I #11, Paget HRHCharles p54]
Note: Sources for this Information: date: second marriage of Ermentrude [Ref: John Carmi Parsons SGM 9/17/1998-085521]
Note: Sources for this Information: date: first marriage of Ermentrude [Ref: John Carmi Parsons SGM 9/17/1998-085521], names: [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p206], child: [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p6, Brandenburg 1995 p92, ES I #11, ES I.1 #8, John Carmi Parsons SGM 9/17/1998-085521, Moriarty Plantagenet p23, Moriarty Plantagenet p24, Paget HRHCharles p54, Weis AR7 #143]
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