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Family
Marriage: Children:
  1. Gerhard Johann N. Siemens: Birth: Abt 1802 in Rosenthal, Chortitza, South Russia. Death: 1876

  2. Helena J. N. Siemens: Birth: 1810 in Rosenthal, Chortitza, South Russia. Death: 6 Jul 1851


Sources
1. Title:   Schapansky, Henry; Letter 2 Feb 1995
2. Title:   Siemens, Paul; Gedcom File, Jan 2002
Text:   2301 - 155 Marlee Avenue Toronto, ON M6B 4B5
3. Title:   Rosenthal: The Old Colony Russia - The First Settlers: 1796-1808, Part II
Author:   Schapansky, Henry
Publication:   Mennonite Family History, Oct 1992.
4. Title:   1802 Neuendorf, Chortitza Colony Census 1802 Neuendorf, Chortitza Colony census; from the Dnepropetrovsk Archives, Dnepr

Notes
a. Note:   Johann lived in Rosenthal in 1802, 1803, and 1808 (Schapansky, MFH, July, 1992, p. 116). He received his homestead from Johann Neufeld (probably an uncle of Anna), after Neufeld's death and before 1802 (Schapansky, MFH, July, 1992, p. 116). In the 1802 Chortitza census he is listed at Rosenthal #20 and in the 1808 census he is listed at Rosenthal #19 (B. H. Unruh, p. 263). He migrated to Russia in 1795 from Brunau, W. Prussia (B. H. Unruh, p. 263). Schapansky noted that Johann had immigrated to Russia in 1796-98. His records were found in the records of Rosenthal in 1802, 1803, and 1808. Prior to 1802, he took over the farm of Johann Neufeld after Neufeld's death (probably was an uncle of Anna, Johann's wife, according to Schapansky).
  This is the same settler identified by Dad (Gerhard Jacob Siemens, born 1888) as his great-great grandfather who had immigrated to Russia. Schapansky's records allowed me to positively confirm this information. Unruh's 1955 book, "Die niederlaendish-niederdeutschen Hintergruende der mennonitischen Ostwanderungen", identified the Johann Siemens family as number 19, as emigrating in 1795 from the Danzig area from a village Branau. The family consisted of: Johann (35), wife Anna (31). Esther (11), Margaretha (9), Gerhard (6), amd Anna (1). The father was identified as a handyman. The family settled in the Chortitzer Colony in the Rosenthal village. The reference to Unruh was first made by Margaret Kroeker in a letter in 1979. M. Kroeker also noted that the Siemens family took over Johann Neufeld's property in 1802 and lived in Rosenthal in 1808.
  Unruh's book (my translation): "September 20, 1808 revisions for the Rosenthal village: 1795, Family 19: Johann Siemens, age 35, from the Danziger area, from the Brunau village, Mennonite, farmer, wife Anna 31, children: Ester 11, Margaretha 9, Gerhard 6, Anna 1. Possessions: 6 horses, 19 cattle, 2 sheep, 11 pigs, 1 plow, 2 wagons, 1 spinning wheel, 6553.6 kg grain, 15 bales hay." (page 263)
  The two Unruh references identify Johann's occupation differently: handyman and farmer. Since farmers only left Prussia in 1803, the handyman identification is the more accurate one.


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