Individual Page


Family
Marriage: Children:
  1. Andre PRADET: Birth: ABT 1703 in of St. Andre de Niort, Deux Sevres, Poitou, France. Death: 25 MAY 1715 in St. Andre de Niort, Deux Sevres, Poitou, France

  2. Elisabeth PRADET: Birth: ABT APR 1706.

  3. Jean PRADET: Birth: ABT JUL 1707. Death: 21 OCT 1707

  4. JEAN-SIMON PRADET-ST-GELAIS: Birth: 12 DEC 1708 in St. Andre de Niort, Deux Sevres, Poitou, France. Death: 12 JUN 1797 in Baie St. Paul, Charlevoix, P. Q.

  5. Jean-Bernard PRADET: Birth: 6 JUL 1710. Death: 29 SEP 1714

  6. Denis PRADET: Birth: 18 JAN 1712 in St. Andre de Niort, Deux Sevres, Poitou, France.

  7. Rene-Gaspard PRADET: Birth: 12 JAN 1714 in St. Andre de Niort, Deux Sevres, Poitou, France.

  8. Pierre PRADET: Birth: 3 MAY 1715 in St. Andre de Niort, Deux Sevres, Poitou, France.

  9. Jean PRADET: Birth: 15 NOV 1716 in St. Andre de Niort, Deux Sevres, Poitou, France.

  10. Felix PRADET: Birth: 10 SEP 1718. Death: 11 AUG 1719


Family
Marriage:
Sources
1. Title:   (1.) Tanguay VOL VI, page 439. (2.) Frere Eloi Gerard Talbot " Receuil des familles du Charlevoix" (Baie St. Paul) Pages 172 thru 196.( 3.) Frere Eloi Gerard Talbot's " Marriages du Charlevoix" Baie St. Paul, Pages 431 thru 434.( 4.) Sepultures du Charlevoix (Baie St. Paul Section)( 5.) Bapteme et Marriages des paroisses St. Augustin, Ste. Marie, St. Jean-Baptiste, St. Antoine, Ste. Therese, Manchester, N. H.( 6.) Personal knowledge.( 7.) Interviews with family members. (8.) Information obtained from grave stones located at St. Augustin Cemetery & Mount Calvary Cemetery and Mausoleum, Manchester, N. H. (9.) Les Otis au Pays de Matane by Claude Otis (10.) Memoires de la Societe Généalogique Canadienne-Francaise #125, Vol XXVI, #3 ,1975. And #126, Vol XXVI, #4, 1975. And #127, Vol XXVII, #1, 1976. (11.) Genealogie de la famille Otis, Branche Canadienne by Gerard Malchelosse. 12. Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and N. H. by Sybil Noyes, C. Thornton Libby and W. Goodwin Davis. 13. Drouin Vol II page 1105. & 14. The GEDCOM databases of the CGFA (Centre Généalogique Francophone d' Amérique. Quebec, Canada) (15.) Databases of the Church of Latter Day Saints. (16) Gene Stark's Gendex. (17) Repertoire Des Mariages du Saguenay Lac St-Jean 1842 - 1971 Soc. Gen. de Quebec.

Notes
a. Note:   ased on the date of birth of his sons André who died and was buried when he was 12 years old on 25 May 1715, and, Jean-Simon who was born & Baptized on Dec 13, 1708. We know that GASPARD PRADET died before 1730 as his son Jean-Simon declared this fact in his marriage contract dated Feb 1730. We know that GASPARD PRADET & his wife ELIZABETH CHAIGNEAU (Chaignon) had at least 10 children.They were all born in France. They are:(#1) André, born about 1703. André's burial record indicates he was burried at St. André de Niort, Deux Sevres, Poitou, France on May 25, 1715. Andre was 12 years old when he died. (#2) Elisabeth Pradet born about April 1706 & died when she was 18 months old on Oct 12, 1707.( #3) Jean born about July 1707 and died when he was 3 months old on Oct 21, 1707. (#4) JEAN-SIMON PRADET dit SAINT-GELAIS & dit LAFORGE "THE ANCESTOR' of all the SAINT-GELAIS of North America was born Dec 13, 1708. (#5) Jean-Bernard Pradet Born Jul 6, 1710, died 4 yrs old on Sept 29 1714. (#6) Denis Pradet born 18 Jan 1712, St. Andre de Niort, France. (#7) Rene-Gaspard b. 12 Jan 1714, St. Andre de Niort. (#8) Pierre Pradet b 3 May 1715, St. Andre de Niort, was married on Nov 27, 1747. (#9) Jean Pradet b. 15 Nov 1716, St. Andre de Niort. (#10) Felix Pradet, b Sept 10 1718 at Frontenay, R. R. France and Died Aug 11 1719 When he was about 11 monthes old. I have a copy of Jean-Simon's baptism record which clearly states that JEAN-SIMON PRADET was born on 13 December 1708. That same record indicates that GASPARD PRADET' s occupation was a "boulanger" which is the French word for "baker". Most of my adult life, I thought that I might be related somehow to the Aristocratic St. Gelais family of the 16th and 17th century, The St. Gelais family that occupied the Chateau de Cherveux in Poitou, or other Illustrious St. Gelais of the period, like Mellin de St. Gelais, a Court poet etc . I carved out a wooden plaque of the "St-Gelais Family Crest" over 35 years ago, and to this day it is still hanging on my living room wall. I have been working on my genealogy for over 25 years, and I find this more and more NOT to be the case. Moreover my oldest paternal ancestor found is GASPARD PRADET's parents, Jean Pradet & Margeurite Niort and to this day, not one link either by blood or marriage to the SAINT-GELAIS families has ever been established. There is indeed a Chateau de Cherveux in Poitou which was occupied by the SAINT-GELAIS Family. The SAINT GELAIS FAMILY intermarried with the powerful Lusignan family of Poitou.(The Chateau de Cherveux has a wonderful French-English website) and I have indeed located a village in France called SAINT-GELAIS. It is located very close to the Chateau de Cherveux in Poitou. GASPARD PRADET and his children are from the area of St. André-de-Niort, Deux -Sevres in Poitou, France. The village of SAINT-GELAIS is in the same area. All indications are that the Pradet family must have resided at least for a time in the village of St-Gelais and that would explain why Jean-Simon Pradet dit St. Gelais and dit Laforge was given the "dit name" SAINT-GELAIS by his military regiment, which is the surname used by most of the Pradet descendants to this day, myself included. In conclusion, I am just as happy and proud to have descended from a humble and brave soldier, the son of a baker, as if I had descended from a member of the Aristocratic St. Gelais family. Here is a brief history of the Village and Church of St. Gelais. First the original French version and then my translation. ORIGINE ET HISTOIRE DU VILLAGE DE SAINT GELAIS ORIGIN AND HISTORY OF THE VILLAGE OF SAINT GELAIS
L'église de Saint-Gelais fut construite à partir de 1109 par Raoul de Lusignan. Celui-ci avait un fief en ce lieu et vénérait particulièrement Saint-Gelais, successeur de Saint Hilaire, évêque de Poitiers au IV ème siècle. Il dédia cette église prieurale en l'honneur de Saint Gelais. Enfin, le village avait une identité avec un saint patron dont la fête serait célébrée tous les 26 Août. Les pélerins de Saint-Jacques de Compostelle, descendant de Parthenay, trouvaient en haut de la Cueille Saint Jacques recueillement en notre église et repos aux Jacquetières.
En 1530, 10 ans seulement après que Luther ait brulé la bulle du pape, un bourgeois de Saint-Gelais nommé Martin, fut condamné comme Luthérien par le Parlement de Paris, c'est dire la rapidité de l'extension du Protestantisme en Poitou. En 1544, Calvin séjourne à Poitiers et ses disciples convertissent une grande partie des Poitevins à la Réforme. En 1569, 1574, et 1585, Louis de Saint-Gelais, fidèle d'Henri de Navarre, fut assiégé par trois fois dans son château de Cherveux par les troupes catholiques. En 1598, devenu Henri IV, le Roi essaie d'apaiser les combattants en donnant le droit de cité aux protestants par l'Edit de Nantes. En 1635, les protestants rejetés des cimetières catholiques reçoivent à Saint-Gelais un cimetière à part au Bourg Neuf. Craignant que les corps des descendants des fondateurs de l'Eglise devenus protestants ne soient exhumés et jetés à la décharge publique, les protestants de Saint-Gelais retounèrent la dalle recouvrant l'escalier de la crypte. La croix de Saint-Gelais étant en dessous, la crypte passa inaperçue au moment des exhumations exigées par les catholiques, et les révolutionnaires de 1793 n'eurent pas l'idée d'y descendre pour récupérer le plomb des cercueils pour en faire des balles. En 1681, le Roi envoie ses dragons, pour convertir les protestants par la force. Nos registres paroissiaux témoignent de 436 conversions sur environ 800 âmes.
En 1791, l'église et le prieuré sont vendus comme biens nationaux.
En 1925, l'église fut inscrite à l'inventaire supplémentaire des monuments historiques.
En 1945, elle fut classée comme monument historique.
A partie de 1962, de grands travaux ont été entrepris, et leur achèvement s'est fait en 1998. *** TRANSLATION: Construction of the church of Saint-Gelais began in about 1109 by Raoul De Lusignan. Raoul had a Fief (stronghold) in the area and venerated particularly "Saint Gelais", successor of Saint Hilaire, bishop of Poitiers in the fourth century. He dedicated this church in honor of Saint Gelais. Finally the village could Identify with a Patron Saint whose birthday was celebrated every year on August 26. The pilgrims of Saint-Jacques de Compostelle coming down from Parthenay found a gathering and resting place at the village & church of Saint Gelais. In 1530, just 10 years after Luther burned "La Bulle du Pape" (In general, any document with the Papal Seal on it is known as "La Bulle du Pape". In this case Luther burned the declaration of the Pope excommunicating Luther from the Roman Catholic Church) a Bourgeois from the village of Saint Gelais named Martin was condemned as a Lutheran by the Parliament in Paris, which is said to have accelerated the expansion of the Protestant movement in Poitou. During a sojourn at Poitiers in 1544, Calvin and his disciples converted a large number its citizenry to the Protestant Reform. Louis de Saint-Gelais, faithful to Henri de Navarre was besieged three times at the Chateau de Cherveux by Catholic troops....In 1569, and 1574, and again in 1585. In 1598 under Henri IV, the king tried to appease the combatants by giving the Protestants the same rights as the citizens and in accordance with the Edict of Nantes. In 1635, the Prostestants rejected from the Catholic cemeteries were given a cemetery of their own at Saint Gelais in a section called Bourg Neuf. Fearing that the bodies of the descendants of the founders of the church who became Protestants would be exhumed and thrown in the public dump, the Protestants of Saint-Gelais over-turned the stones of the staircase leading to the crypt. The cross of Saint Gelais which was located below the crypt went unnoticed by the exhumations urged on by the Catholics ....and the Revolutionists of 1793 did not think to go below to recover the lead from the coffins to make musket balls. In 1681 the king sent his "dragons" (heavily armoured soldiers) to convert the protestants by force. Our parish registers can attest to 436 conversions out of about 800 souls. In 1791 the Church and La Prieuré/Priory (probably the rectory) were sold as National Assets. In 1925 the church was placed on an inventory list of historical sites. In 1945 the Church was classified as an historical site. Many renovations were undertaken starting in about 1962. They were completed by 1998.

Note:   GASPARD (1) PRADET. The estimated date of birth for Gaspard Pradet is b


RootsWeb.com is NOT responsible for the content of the GEDCOMs uploaded through the WorldConnect Program. The creator of each GEDCOM is solely responsible for its content.