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  • ID: I251
  • Name: Robert HAMILTON
  • Given Name: Robert
  • Surname: Hamilton
  • Suffix: Master Mariner
  • Title: Master Mariner
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 5 NOV 1833 in Port Glasgow (Renfrewshire) Scotland
  • Death: 27 MAY 1882 in loss of his schooner the 'Richard & Mary' between Greymouth and Nelson,NZ of drowned at sea
  • Note:
    1841 Census Port Glasgow

    Address Surname Forename Sex Age Occupation Place of Birth
    ========= ====== ======= === === ======== ==========
    Scotts Lane Hamilton Robert M 40 agricultural labourer IRL
    Hamilton Fanny F 40 IRL
    Hamilton Andw. M 18 apprentice carpenter IRL
    Hamilton Mary F 16 IRL
    Hamilton Eliza F 11 IRL
    Hamilton James M 13 IRL
    Hamilton Sarah F 9 RFW
    Hamilton Robert M 7 RFW
    Hamilton John M 5 RFW
    Hamilton Matthew M 1 RFW
    Darroch Margt. F 20 independent IRL
    Gilgrace Ruth F 19 independent IRL

    (thanks to Jim Baird)

    1851 Port Glasgow.
    They were in Black Bull Close.
    Robert HAMILTON, head, M, 51, General Labourer, born Ireland
    Fanny, wife, 49, born Ireland
    Robert, son, 15, un, Seaman, born Port Glasgow
    Sarah A, dau, u,18, born Port Glasgow
    John, son, u, 14, Apprentice Tailor, born Port Glasgow
    Margaret, dau,8, Scholar " "
    Thomas, son, 7, Scholar, " "
    Matthew, son, 11, Scholar " "
    Hugh M Lelland, Lodger, 46, Gen Lab., born Ireland

    ( thanks to Jill Forster).

    He's not with the family in 1861 and a marriage found in 1868, Port Glasgow to Agnes Smith, is not him.

    Return of Masters and Mates to whom Certificates of Competency have been
    granted under "The Merchant Ships Officers' Examination Act 187" during the
    Financial Year 1872-1873

    Hamilton, Robert Master [Class of certificate] Home Trade
    [Certificate Issued] 24 June 1873 [Number of Certificate] 5009

    This gave me a Certificate Number. I searched in the 'Duplicate Masters'
    Certificates ? Home Trade' for 9 September 1872 to 22 October 1877
    [Archives Reference: M 28/9] and found a duplicate certificate for Robert

    It is not possible to photocopy from these bound books, but the wording on
    the Certificate (all centred; much of it in fancy script, especially on the
    front) reads as follows:


    New Zealand
    Certificate of Competency
    of a
    Robert Hamilton
    Whereas it has been reported to me that you have been found duly qualified
    to fulfil
    The duties of master of a Home Trade Passenger Ship I do hereby in
    pursuance of the Merchant
    Ships Officers Examination Act 1870 grant you this Certificate of
    Given under the Seal of the Marine Department of New Zealand
    At Wellington this 24th day of June 1873
    James Fergusson
    Registered William [?] Seed
    Secretary of Customs


    No. of Certificate 5009
    Address of Bearer Ingestre Street Wellington
    Date and Place of Birth 5th November 1833, Port Glasgow Scotland
    Signature [blank]
    This Certificate is given upon an Ordinary Examination passed at Wellington
    on the twenty third day of May 1873
    [lengthy text about not gaining certificate by false declaration]
    Issued at the PORT of Wellington on the thirtieth day of June 1873
    J Hackworth

    Birthplace, Glasgow, given on 3 of his 6 childrens' birth certificates. After 1875 the NZ records included this information. DoB calculated from the Intention to Marry register at the National Archives in Wellington. where his age is given in July 1869 as 35 years. Age differs on childrens' birth certificates.

    His marriage: Intention to Marry: 20th July 1869 Robert Hamilton, Bachelor. Occ. Mariner age 35yrs.
    Address, at present Wellington for 3 days. St. Peters church Te Aro. Ann Cole, widow age 26.
    (source Information from Sue Greene in NZ, from original record)
    Marriage Certificate: St Peters Church, Wellington 22nd July 1869 Robert HAMILTON to Anne COLE. He is a Mariner,a bachelor; she has no rank or profession and a spinster (which is not true,see below)
    (source: copy of certificate)

    His wife: had been born Annie Hope BLAKE at sea on her father's ship the Hope in British coastal waters, christened at Tynemouth, married at Bromley by Bow in London to her cousin Henry COLE in 1865. She had many memories of London Docks, Thames Tunnel, etc. Henry was a bootmaker. After hearing of opportunities in NZ from CHANDLER cousins who had been at the Coolgardie diggings, the couple emigrated on the John Temperley to Lyttleton/Christchurch in 1866 and settled in Kaikoura where Henry drowned in 1868. Annie had a year old son. (sources: her earlier marriage certificate, more is supplied by family tradition and notes made during her life. Annie was born at sea, her father and two husbands were lost at sea. As an old lady, she bathed in the sea every day. She had a mystical streak, as a poetess in local newspapers she claimed relationship with William BLAKE but that was her father's name anyway)
    Witnesses at the wedding were George M.CHANDLER, mariner, and Harriet CHANDLER.
    (Harriet was Annie's cousin from London. This pair had something to do with the Princess Hotel in Wellington. source: family tradition.)

    His occupation: mariner, seaman , carpenter and farmer.. source: childrens' birth certs.
    'Masters, Mates, & Engineers' - Ships microfilm which had "Hamilton, Robert, Master,
    Home Trade 1873, H-19a Pg 8" (information from the FHC in Christchurch, courtesy of Karen Lloyd)
    He was master of the following ships:
    >" From 'Watt's Index' to NZ registered ships. That gives R. Hamilton as the captain of the following vessels:
    > HERALD Schooner He was the captain when it was stranded nr Nelson 18/8/1875
    > ELIZABETH Barge He was captain when it stranded off Kapiti Is 29/10/1878
    > CANTERBURY Schooner He was captain when it was registered with the Port of Wellington 6/1/1876
    > It is not that he was particularly incompetent but the captains are only listed in the index in relation to a particular event at > the time they were captain." -R Deane : Archivist/librarian, New Zealand National Maritime Museum
    (photocopied reports of these incidents from Karen Lloyd)
    references from Olwen Whitehouse:
    Robert Hamilton AJHR 1873 Section H19A Marine Department Report page 8
    Robert Hamilton **AJHR 1876 Section H26 Marine Department Report page 14
    Robert Hamilton AJHR 1879 Section H10 Marine Department Report page 27
    Robert Hamilton AJHR 1883 Section H15 Marine Department Report page 14
    or ask Dawn Chambers -

    **AJHR 1876 Section H26 page 14 Return of Wrecks

    Ship "Herald" Date of Casualty: 18 Aug 1875
    Name of Master : Robert HAMILTON
    Age of Vessel : 8 years Rig : Schooner Register Tonnage: 53
    Number of Crew : 5 Number of Passengers :
    Nature of Cargo : Coal Wagons
    Nature of Casualty : Stranded; partial loss
    Number of Lives Lost :
    Place of Accident: Arrow Rock, entrance to Nelson Harbour
    Wind Direction : Wind Force : Calm

    Finding of Court of Inquiry: Unavoidable accident.

    Nov 1st 1878 Evening News
    • We are indebted to Captain Short, owner of the ill-fated ketch Elizabeth, for some further particulars as to the wreck of that vessel at Kapati. It appears that the Elizabeth, under command of Captain Hamilton, left Pelorus Sound on Sunday last, bound for Patea, with a cargo of timber consigned to Mr. Milroy of the latter place. A strong S.E. breeze with rain was experienced during the run, until the vessel was about 12 miles S. W. of the Wanganui bar, when the wind lulled, and there being a heavy sea on, the ketch sprung a leak. The pump then became choked, and the spear-box broke. The vessel then began to make water so fast, that she was headed for Kapiti, in the hope that some repairs could be effected there. The water, however, gained very rapidly, and by the time Kapiti was reached, only 2 inches of side was showing, and the vessel was so thoroughly waterlogged, that it was found impossible to " stay" her, she, therefore, had
    to be beached a little to the southward of the northern point of the island on some large taulders. It was nearly low water at the time, and when the tide ro<e she settled down with a strong list to seaward. The sea washed right over her, carrying away the galley and deck load. Captain Hamilton does not think that she can be floated again, except at a great expense. The sails and gear have been unbent, and everything saved that could b3 got at. The sea is now breaking over lier, and there is every probability that she will go to pieces.

    Where he lived: Residence in Wellington : for at least 3 days (according to marriage 1869) Appears to have been in Wellington possibly at Ingestre Street c1869 - 1875. though his wife Annie didn't always have the children there.
    The first child, Walter was born in Kaikoura, South Island, March 1870, where Annie had a house and section.
    The second child George was born at Ingestre Street Wellington in June 1872
    Annie, daughter, born Willis St, Wellington, May 1875.
    Fanny born 1877 Queen Charlotte Sound.
    Charlotte born 1879 Clova Bay, Pelorus Sound, Marlborough
    Jane Elsie, born posthumously at Russell Street, Nelson (opposite Franzens' store and boatyard) Nov 1882. Photograph of the Richard and Mary tied up at Franzens wharf in Nelson.


    May 20.— High water, 7.44 .m., 8.7 p.m.

    VESSELS IN PORT. Barque — Superior. Bnrquentine— Fairlie. Schooners — Bannockburn, Richard and Mary.


    May 19— Richard and Mary, sch, 64 tons, Hamilton, from Dunedin.

    CLEARED OUTWARDS. May 19— Nil. The schooner Richard and Mary, Captain Hamilton, arrived from Dunedin yesterday afternoon.

    NELSON. April 1.

    The schooner Richard and Mary, owned by Mr Franzan, of Nelson, through missing stays, dragged on to the Boulder Bank, where she now lies. She may be got off by to-night's tide, but probably will become a total wreck. She is understood to be insured in the United Office.


    Oct. 1-High water 12.44 a.m., 1.8 p.m.

    VESSELS IN PORT Brig— DroTor. Schooner— T. B. Taylor.

    ENTERED INWARDS. Sept 30-Nil.

    CLEARED OUTWARDS. Sept. 30— Richard and Mary, schooner, 44 tons, R. Hamilton, master, for Nelson.

    EXPORTS. Per Richard and Mary : 550 sacks wheat, 59 do oats, Hay and Barr.

    The schooner Richard and Mary, Captain Hamilton, cleared tho Customs yesterday, laden with produce for Nelson.

    Evening Post, by telegraph, United Press Association
    1st July 1882
    Fears are entertained for the safety of the schooner Richard and Mary, now 87 days out from Greymonth to this port. She is owned by Mr. Franzen, and commanded by Captain Hamilton, and had a crew of four.

    His disappearance:
    The "Richard And Mary", schooner: supposed to have foundered while on a voyage from Greymouth to Nelson. The schooner sailed from Greymouth on May 27, 1882 and was never seen or heard of again. She was under the command of Captain Robert Hamilton, and carried a crew of three others.
    The "Richard And Mary" No 54,003 was a schooner of 44 tons register, built at Havelock, Marlborough in July 1876 by George Finnister and John Inglis, and her dimensions were: length 60.8 feet, beam 17 feet, depth 6.9 feet. She was owned by Mr B Franzen, ship chandler, of Nelson.
    [from NZ shipwrecks, CWN Ingram, Beckett Publishing, Auckland]
    The newspapers both national and local have been checked and rechecked to no avail for possible reports of the accident or an obituary.
    An inquest-related death cert. for a Robert HAMILTON reported at Wellington 1885, ( 3 yrs after the disappearance) turned out to be that of a farmer from Riversdale who died as the result of a kick on the head from a horse.

    But see this Marine Department Report:
    "Date of Casualty: May, supposed
    Name of Vessell, age Richard & Mary, 8 years
    Rig: Schooner
    Register tonnage: 44
    Crew: 4
    Passengers: -
    Cargo: Coal
    Casualty: Supposed foundered; total loss
    Number of lives lost: Supposed 4; all hands
    Place where casualty occurred: On voyage from Greymouth to Nelson
    Decision of Court Enquiry: Vessel left Greymouth for Nelson on 27th May, 1882, and has not since been heard of
    Name of Master: Robert Hamilton

    14th July 1882 Evening Post
    A subscription has been opened in aid of the widow and children of the late Richard Hamilton, master of the schooner Richard and Mary, which vessel left Greymouth two months ago, and has not since been heard of. The late Captain Hamilton was formerly well-known in Wellington as master of the coasters Amateur and Herald, His widow is left totally destitute with six children — the eldest only 13 years old — wholly dependent on her. A subscription list will be found at the Evening Post Office, where contributions will be received. From the Registrar-General's report on the vital

    The electoral rolls for Nelson have been checked but Robert H didn't seem to own land.

    His widow: Annie HAMILTON returned to Kaikoura after his disappearance and had another son, Herbert there, 3 years later in 1885. He was reputedly the son of a local store keeper, Ray MAXTON, but took the HAMILTON name (birth cert, says illegitimate).. She died in Kaikoura in 1938 aged 96 years, a much loved grandmother.

    The Marine Reports: (thanks to Moira Draper)

    Marine Department Report AJHR 1873 Section H19A p.8
    Marine Department Report AJHR 1876 Section H26 p.14
    Marine Department Report AJHR 1879 Section H10 p.27
    Marine Department Report AJHR 1883 Section H15 p.14
  • Change Date: 6 JAN 2011 at 12:57:21

    Father: Robert HAMILTON b: ABT 1799 in Ireland
    Mother: Fanny DARROCH b: ABT 1805 in Ireland

    Marriage 1 Annie Hope BLAKE b: 5 SEP 1842 in on the ship "Hope" at sea,in British coastal waters c: in Tynemouth.
    • Married: 22nd July 1869 in St Peters,Wellington,Nz
    • Note:
      St. Peters Church, Wellington. cert. 502. Arthur Stock ,Officiating Minister or Registrar.
      In the presence of George. M. Chandler, Wellington. Harriet Chandler, Welligton. ( Harriet nee McKinstry was Annie's cousin)

      Looking at the subsequent children of this marriage, could the Scots naming pattern apply? This is the usual Scots pattern:
      First son named after father's father
      Second son named after mother's father
      Third son named after father
      First daughter named after mother's mother
      Second daughter named after father's mother
      Third daughter named after mother
    1. Has Children Walter HAMILTON b: 10 MAR 1870 in Kaikoura NZ
    2. Has Children George HAMILTON b: 1 JUN 1872 in Ingestre St,Wellington. NZ
    3. Has No Children Annie HAMILTON b: 27 MAY 1875 in Willis Street,Wellington c: in Wellington
    4. Has Children Fanny HAMILTON b: 22 APR 1877 in Queen Charlotte Sound
    5. Has Children Charlotte HAMILTON b: 4 MAY 1879
    6. Has Children Jane Elsie HAMILTON b: 29 NOV 1882 in Nelson,NZ c: in 8 Russell Street,Nelson,NZ
    7. Has Children Herbert HAMILTON b: 10 FEB 1885 in Kaikoura,NZ

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