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  • ID: I18
  • Name: Andrew CAVAYE
  • Given Name: Andrew
  • Surname: Cavaye
  • Suffix: Cask merchant
  • Title: Cask merchant
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 1 OCT 1872 in Northfield Cottage,S. Leith,Midlothan,Scotland
  • Death: 1930 in East Brighton Crescent,Portobello
  • Note:
    First job at age 11+ at Millar's Foundry, Abbeyhill, Edinburgh. Studied French and shorthand at night classes
    Managing Clerk with Thomsons, Coopers & Cask Merchants, Leith, and founded the firm of Macgregor & Company in the same line of business in 1898. This is what happened:
    ........................................................................................8, 9, 23, 24, and 25 Dock Street, LEITH, 13th July 1898.
    Dear Sir,

    As I have been unable to make a satisfactory arrangement with Mrs Thomson, the sole surviving partner of the firm of T. G. Thomson, Cask Merchants, Cadiz Street, Leith, in whose employment I have hitherto been, I have begun business at the above address, under the firm name of MACGREGOR & CO. I have obtained the sanction of Mrs MacGregor, the widow of the late Mr John MacGregor, who was until his death managing partner in the business of T. G. Thomson, for the use of the above name, and have arranged to pay her, out of the profits of the business, a yearly allowance. Mrs MacGregor has also authorised me to transmit to you the enclosed letter.
    Hoping to be favoured with a share of your esteemed commands, and assuring you that all orders extended to the new business will have prompt and careful attention.

    I remain,
    Yours faithfully,
    A. CAVAYE.

    P.S. - It is my intention to carry on the business on the same lines as were adopted so successfully by the late Mr John MacGregor. A. C.

    ..................................................................................."Glenorchy," North Berwick, 13th July 1898.
    Dear Sir,

    Mr Cavaye, who for many years assisted my late husband, Mr John MacGregor, in his successful management of the business of T. G. Thomson, Cask Merchants Cadiz Street, Leith, of which my husband was a Partner, has begun business under the name of MACGREGOR & CO. Mr Cavaye has undertaken to pay me a yearly allowance out of the profits of the business, and, in these circumstances, any assistance you can give Mr Cavaye in his new business will benefit me. I trust that the same kind consideration which was extended to my late husband may be continued with the new business.
    Thanking you in anticipation,
    I am,
    Yours faithfully,

    After starting married life in Leith, Andrew and Christina Cavaye raised their family near the seaside promenade at 16 Melville Street*, Portobello, Midlothian, then moved to Craig Royston, East Brighton Crescent.,Portobello, close to the station for the train to Leith. A keen sportsman, Andrew was well known locally for swimming (he was a founder member of Portobello Swimming Club) bowling, curling and golf.

    [* Melville Street was renamed Bellfield Street 60 years later]
    A CANADA LETTER from Andrew Cavaye visiting British Columbia in 1924 to his son Robert at home in Portobello:

    Grand Forks Hotel
    Frank Hartinger, Proprietor.

    GRAND FORKS. B.C. 27th May 1924.
    Dear Bertie,
    Your letter of 14th inst. arrived this morning, 13 days is quick work. We arrived here this morning at 2 - 30 . Th is is the first chance I have had of writing you a letter . I fully intended doing so at Montreal . We have had a very enjoyable holiday so far , but travelling is rather tiresome . I wish I had spent a day or two at Winnipeg , as there is nothing to do here , besides Dug is uncertain of his holidays & I am afraid we shall go to Vancouver without him . It appears the Accountant's relatives have arrived here & he has gone to Vancouver with them , -- I hear it is likely he will not return . Douglas who is teller just now expects his job , they are getting a new Junior & Douglas fears he cannot get away at present . I have not had much of a talk with him so far , but as he gets his food at this Hotel I shall have the evening with him . I wired to him from Toronto when to expect us , & I also wired Joe McVey's son in Winnipeg to try & meet the train there . McVey & his wife met us at the Station & we were there 1/2 an hour , he was sorry we were not staying & so am I now . From the time we left Liverpool until we reached Winnipeg we were with a young lady from Tasmania , she had been travelling for 9 months , had been to Edin . Glasgow & all over England . She leaves Vancouver on 4 th June for Australia . I have some of her snap shots taken on " Montclare " & at Montreal .
    We booked a compartment for 2 between Toronto & Revelstoke , this cost $ 66 , & food on train cost us about 45 /- a day for two .
    We left Toronto on Thursday night 11 P. M. & reached Revelstoke Sunday 7 P. M. having crossed the Rockies on the Sunday . Stayed in Revelstoke all night , & left Monday 7 .30 by train to Arrowhead , arrived there 9 a.m. left by boat at 9 a. m. & sailed on Arrow Lake till 9 P. M. arriving at West Robson , left there by train at 10 P. M. & here this morning at 2 . 30 . Douglas had damaged his car last night , but met us with a friends' car & brought us to the Hotel . He says it is the best Hotel here , but it is the worst I have struck yet. Grand Forks is a nice quiet place , not very big , no trams , one or two Banks .
    We stayed in Montreal from Saturday night the 17th till Tuesday morning the 20th , arrived in Ottawa at mid - day , visited Parliament House & heard a debate , left at night & reached Toronto Wednesday morning , went a long way to visit D. Mitchell , found no one in , in the afternoon I got his Mother on the phone & we arranged to go that night to her house where we met them all . The following day ( Thursday ) we left Toronto at 7. 30 a.m. by boat for Niagara . Had a good day there returning to Toronto at 9 P.M. & leaving Toronto 11 P M for here .
    A letter arrived from Louie this morning dated 11th May . They seem to be doing alright .
    Dug is just the same and has not acquired the accent .
    I note Staples sent 25 Hhds for 35/37's & that M & R had some also . I note you are using Plum Casks , it is a bit risky & I hope there is no chance of him finding out . I hope you will get some more exports out of him . I note Deas is off , & also Low , Robertson & Bertram not buying .
    I note Ross Bros. order for 50 , I wonder where they are going . It would be advisable to make up 100/200 from Brandies & Drums for Ross .
    I note what you say about H.O. & wonder how you have fared with them .
    I suppose 68/- would pay alright if you sold Guinn' " Davila " Hhds.
    I expect you will get Hhds from Abarzuza at 56/'- I fancy I had a similar enquiry before from J . Wilson , Tain , but have no idea who he is . I note you did not offer for Dewars' Casks , quite right .
    Yes the Coopers' meetings are rather funny sometimes . You do not say if you settled with Lugt or if you got away the Clarets from Mason .
    I don't think I have much more to add meantime . I expect to be here for a few days before going on to Vancouver .
    Mother joins me & also Dug in sending best love to you & Norah .
    Ever Yours Affectionately ,
    Dad .
    Note: Andrew and Chrissie Cavaye are visiting their second son Doug (then about 22) in B.C.
    Andrew has left his Leith cooperage business, MacGregor & Co., in the care of their eldest son, Bertie (Robert McClelland Cavaye, then about 26). Norah is Bertie's wife, Louie his sister. Andrew is giving Bertie instructions about the sale of Hogsheads (whisky barrels) at long distance. I assume "Drums" are Demerara Rum casks, just as Brandies are Brandy casks. New whisky casks would be reconstructed out of these, carrying the name of the cask type they were made from: -Sherries, Brandies, Marsalas etc. -and these would be used to impart special characteristics to the whisky as it matured.
  • Change Date: 28 DEC 2005 at 10:21:00

    Father: Robert McClelland CAVAYE b: 26 OCT 1808 in Port Royal,Kingston,Jamaica c: 12 APR 1810 in Kingston,Jamaica
    Mother: Margaret BOYD b: 1836/1837 in Co.Armagh,Ireland or Glasgow,Scotland

    Marriage 1 Christina Hepburn GRIEVE b: 5 OCT 1874 in 121 Bonnington Road,Leith,Scotland
    • Married: 1 OCT 1895 in Assembly Rooms,Leith
    • Event: ENGAGEMENT 1 OCT 1895 in Geo Boyd MA,Minister of Restalrig Church (Ch of Scot) Officiated
    1. Has No Children Christina CAVAYE b: 21 NOV 1896 in 5 Noble Place,Leith at 7.30 Pm
    2. Has No Children Andrew CAVAYE b: 21 NOV 1896 in 5 Noble Place,Leith at 8 Pm
    3. Has Children Robert McClelland CAVAYE b: 28 Nov1897 in 7 Ryehill Place,Leith
    4. Has Children Helen Louise CAVAYE b: OCT 1899 in 6 Ryehill Place,Leith
    5. Has Children Douglas CAVAYE b: MAR 1901 in Leith,Scotland
    6. Has Children Andrew Melville CAVAYE b: 1903 in Portobello (Midlothian) Scotland
    7. Has Children Margaret CAVAYE b: 1905
    8. Has Children William Mackie CAVAYE b: 1907 in Portobello,Midlothian,Scotland
    9. Has Children Mary CAVAYE b: 1910
    10. Has Children Ian Stewart CAVAYE b: 1911
    11. Has No Children Noel CAVAYE b: 1913
    12. Has Children James Stanley CAVAYE b: 1915 in Portobello,Midlothian,Scotland
    13. Has Children Ronald George CAVAYE b: 1919

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