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  • ID: I37698
  • Name: Ada de HASTINGS 1
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: ABT 1230 in Ashill, Swaffham, Norfolk, England
  • Death: AFT 1261 in Wickham Market, Deben, Suffolk, England 1
  • Note:
    The following post to SGM, 3 Dec 2008, by Douglas Richardson, gives the following possibility for the wife of Ralph Brereton (and I think William Handsacre), after proving that Ada de Huntingdon predeceased her only husband Henry de Hastings, and did not marry her 2nd & 3rd reputed husbands:

    Curiously, in a modern pedigree of the Brereton family of Cheshire found in Ormerod, Hist. of Chester, 3 (1819): 51, the author states
    that Sir Ralph Brereton, of Brereton, Knt. is “said in some pedigrees to marry Ada, daughter of David earl of Huntingdon, relict of Henry Hastings.” On page 19 of the same volume, the author quotes a seemingly authentic inscription cut in capitals within an arch over an ancient tomb in the parish church of Astbury, Cheshire, which reads as follows: “Hic jacent Radulphus Brereton miles et domina Ada uxor sua, una filiarum Davidis comitis Huntingdonis.” [Here lies Ralph Brereton Knt. and lady Ada his wife, daughter of David, Earl of Huntingdon]. This same inscription and/or alleged marriage are elsewhere mentioned in numerous secondary sources such as Gentleman's Magazine.n.s. 9 (1816): 577; Hanshall, Hist. of the County Palatine of Chester (1817): 579; Yates, History of the Ancient Town and Borough of Congleton (1820): 141; Archaeologia 33 (1849): 59-60; Hamer & Lloyd, Hist. of the Par. of Llangurig (1875): 74; Arch. Cambrensis 4th ser. 11 (1880): 176; Colls. His. & Arch. Rel. to Montgomeryshire 14 (1881): 61-63; Advertiser Notes & Queries (1882): 23; Lloyd, Hist. of the Princes, the Lords Marcher, & the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog 3 (1882): 92 (Brereton pedigree); Trans. of the Lancashire & Cheshire Antiq. Soc. 7 (1889): 286-287; Trans. of the Hist. Soc. of Lancashire & Cheshire 76 (1924): 43; Notes & Queries, 172 (1937): 298, 337, 393, 447; Dalton, MSS of St. George’s Chapel (1957): 409; Brereton, Letter Books of Sir William Brereton 2 (Rec. Soc. of Lancashire & Cheshire 128) (1990): 62.

    Erdeswicke, Survey of Staffordshire (1820): 172 further alleges that Ada, widow of Henry de Hastings, married William Hansacre [Handsacre], of Staffordshire. Still yet, a modern pedigree of the family of Earls of Chester found in Banks, Dormant & Extinct Baronage of England 1 (1807): 210 states that “An old MS. Visitation Book of Cheshire says, she [Ada] married, second, William Handsacre, and, third, Sir Ralph Brereton, of Brereton, knight.” Contemporary records, however, do not support either of these “extra” marriages for Ada de Huntingdon.

    We've already seen that Ada of Huntingdon, wife of Sir Henry de Hastings, predeceased her husband shortly before Trinity term 1242 (date of lawsuit). Thus, Ada of Huntingdon can not possibly have married (2nd) either Sir Ralph de Brereton or William Handsacre. To date, I've found very little information regarding Sir Ralph de Brereton, although it seems likely an individual of this name existed in this time period. If his wife was named Ada, however, the possibility exists that he was married to the younger Ada de Hastings, one of the daughters of Ada of Huntingdon. My research shows that in 1252 the younger Ada de Hastings, being then a ward of the king, she was abducted by Hubert Hovel, Knt., and married to him without the king’s license. In Feb. 1252 the king ordered Hubert’s arrest for having “committed many trespasses in the realm against the king’s crown and peace.” He was subsequently arrested by the Sheriff of Bedfordshire. The following year, 1253, the king pardoned Hubert Hovel, and commanded the Sheriff of Bedfordshire to permit him to go free. Sir Hubert Hovel died before Hilary term 1258, when his widow, Ada, claimed dower in the third part of the manor of Harpol, Suffolk. She released her claim to brother-in-law, Robert Hovel, senior, in return for an annuity of two marks of silver, plus a one-time payment of ten marls of silver. Ada was living in 1260-1261, put she put in her claim to property in Wickham, Suffolk in a fine recorded that year. She is possibly the Ada Hovel who occurs on the 1301 lay subsidy at Cundale, Yorkshire [References: Arch. Journal, 26 (1869): 236-256; Brown, Yorkshire Lay Subsidy (Yorkshire Arch. Soc. Rec. Ser. 21) (1898): 1-8; Rye, Cal. of Feet of Fines for Suffolk (1900): 61, 63; Copinger, Manors of Suffolk 1 (1905): 397-399; Cal. Patent Rolls, 1247-1258 (1908): 130, 191; Muskett, Suffolk Manorial Fams. 2 (1908): 59-60, 74 (Hovel pedigree); Complete Peerage 10 (1945): 336, footnote a (sub Pecche)]. Thus, Ada de Hastings was a young widow in 1258, and can easily have remarried. Unfortunately, the subsequent history of Ada de Hastings is unknown. She may possibly have died without remarrying, or she may have married Sir Ralph de Brereton, Knt., of Brereton, Cheshire....

    In conclusion, it is clear that Ada of Huntingdon had but one husband, Sir Henry de Hastings. She did not marry (2nd) Sir Ralph de Brereton or William de Handsacre. The possibility exists that Sir Ralph de Brereton may have been married to her daughter, Ada de Hastings, widow of Sir Hubert Hovel. It is also possible that Sir Ralph de Brereton's widow married William de Handsacre. However, if so, Sir Ralph de Brereton can not have been married to Ada de Hastings, as William de Handsacre's wife was named Alice or Ala. Further study is needed to resolve this points.

    Father: Henry de HASTINGS , of Ashill, Sir b: ABT 1205 in Ashill, Swaffham, Norfolk, England
    Mother: Ada de HUNTINGDON , Heiress of Yardley b: ABT 1208 in Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England

    Marriage 1 Hubert HOVEL , Sir b: ABT 1230
    • Married: 1252 in 1st husband 1

    Marriage 2 Ralph de BRERETON , Sir b: ABT 1224 in Barton, Preston, Lancashire, England
    • Married: AFT 1258 in 2nd husband 1
    1. Has Children Sybil de BRERETON b: ABT 1259 in Brereton cum Smethwick, Congleton, Cheshire, England
    2. Has Children William de BRERETON , Sir b: ABT 1260 in Brereton cum Smethwick, Congleton, Cheshire, England

    1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups -
      Page: Douglas Richardson, 3 Dec 2008
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