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  • ID: I37696
  • Name: William de HANDSACRE & Charlton, Sir 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: AFT 1262 in Handsacre, Armitage, Staffordshire, England 2
  • Death: AFT 26 NOV 1302 in Charlton, Pershore, Worcestershire, England 3
  • Note:
    The following is part of a post to SGM, 3 Dec 2008, by Douglas Richardson:

    As for William de Handsacre, a bit more is known of him. His wife was not named Ada at all, rather her name was Ala or Alice. My research indicates that in Hilary term 1279 Alice widow of William son of Geoffrey Fitz Warine stated she previously brought a writ of dower against William de Handesacre and Alice his wife regarding tenements in Tipton, Staffordshire. In Michaelmas 1282 Ala, widow of William de Handsacre, sued Thomas le Harpur and Richard le Carpenter, both of Handsacre, Staffordshire, for the third part of two messuages and various lands in the vill of Handsacre, Staffordshire as her dower. In Michaelmas 1287 the Sheriff was ordered to raise 13 marks from the lands and chattels of Ala, widow of William de Handesacre, and two others, executors of the will of William de Handesacre, and bring them into court to pay them to Roger le Escot, of Nottingham, for a debt. In 1293 Ala widow of William de Handesacre and Thomas le Harpur were attached to answer the plea of William de Waleton and Alice his wife [References: Colls. Hist. Staffs. 6(1) (1885): 99, 125, 127, 135, 172, 231, 252]. The possibility exists that William de Handsacre's wife, Alice or Ala, was formerly married to Sir Ralph de Brereton, of Brereton, Cheshire. But, if so, Sir Ralph de Brereton can not have married Ada de Hastings, the daughter of Ada of Huntingdon, as William de Handsacre's wife was named Alice or Ala.

    NOTE: I interpret the above as being possibly 2 different generations: William & Alice somewhat newly married in 1279; and the elder William dead in 1282, with his widow Ala alive in 1293. This supposes that Ala and Alice are two different wives. According to VCH Worcs (see notes for William de Handsacre, b. <1219), there was a William de Handsacre holding Charlton from 1240 until 1331, which means there were many Williams in a row.

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    Banco Roll, Easter, 11 E. I.

    Staff. In the suit of Ala widow of William de Handesacre versus Thomasle Harpur for dower, Thomas called to warranty William son of William de Handesacre, who is under age, and in ward to Geoffrey de Greselegh, and one part of his lands is in the custody of Roger the Bishop of Coventry and Lichfield, and another part in the custody of Henry de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln, and another part in the custody of William le Botiller of Wemme. The custodes to be summoned for Trinity Term, and Geoffrey to produce the heir at the same date. m. 1.

    From: 'Plea Rolls for Staffordshire: 11 Edward I', Staffordshire Historical Collections, vol. 6 part 1 (1885), pp. 126-132. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=52431&strquery=handesacre Date accessed: 21 June 2012.

    NOTE: This means that William was underage in 1282, and the son of William (and probably Ala).

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    The following shows lands in Derbyshire, and makes William's birth year at least 1 year later.

    Banco Roll, Trinity, 12 E. I.

    Derb., Staff., Warw. The essoin of William le Botiller appeared against Geoffrey de Gresele, the custos of the person and a portion of the lands of William son and heir of William de Handisacre, and Roger Bishop of Coventry and Lichfield, the custos of the other lands of the said inheritance, in a plea that they should warrant to him a third part of a messuage and carucate of land in Sinerecote in co. Warwick, which Ala the widow of William de Handesacre claimed in dower; and they did not appear.

    From: 'Plea Rolls for Staffordshire: 12 Edward I', Staffordshire Historical Collections, vol. 6 part 1 (1885), pp. 132-138. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=52432&strquery=handesacre Date accessed: 21 June 2012.

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    The following shows William to be alive in 1302:

    Assizes taken at Stafford, before William Inge and Ralphde Bellafago, on the morrow of St. Katherine theVirgin, 31 E. I. (26th November, 1302).

    Staff. An assize, etc., if Roger Corbet and Joan formerly wife of Thomas Corbet, had unjustly disseised William de Hondesacre of common of pasture in sixty acres of wood and in forty acres of moor in Hondesacre (Handsacre). Roger did not appear, and the assize was taken in his absence, and Joan appeared by her bailiff. The jury found in favour of William, damages half a mark; and John de Herounville, John atte Touneseynde of Hernylowe, Robert de Melburne, Elyas de Wykynton, Richard Costentyn, Henry de Prestwode, and William Dymmok, recognitors, did not appear, and are in misericordi‚. A postscript states that the record and the original writ were sent coram Rege by a writ dated from Lanercost, 4th October, 34 E. I.

    From: 'Plea Rolls for Staffordshire: 30 Edward I', Staffordshire Historical Collections, vol. 7, part 1 (1886), pp. 94-108. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=52457&strquery=hondesacre Date accessed: 21 June 2012.
    From: 'Plea Rolls for Staffordshire: 30 Edward I', Staffordshire Historical Collections, vol. 7, part 1 (1886), pp. 94-108. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=52457&strquery=hondesacre Date accessed: 21 June 2012.




    Father: William de HANDSACRE , & Charlton, Sir b: ABT 1240 in Handsacre, Armitage, Staffordshire, England
    Mother: Ala b: ABT 1242

    Marriage 1 Alice b: ABT 1262
    • Married: BEF 1279 1
    Children
    1. Has Children William de HANDESACRE & Charlton, Sir b: ABT 1290 in Handsacre, Armitage, Staffordshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Douglas Richardson, 3 Dec 2008
    2. Title: Staffordshire Historical Collections, George Wrottesley, 1883, www.british-history.ac.uk
      Page: IV:126-32
    3. Title: Staffordshire Historical Collections, George Wrottesley, 1883, www.british-history.ac.uk
      Page: VII part 1:94-108
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