The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I37643
  • Name: Robert de GRENVILLE & Chilton, Sir 1
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: Robert de /Grainville/ & Chilton
  • Birth: ABT 1152 in Chilton, Thame, Buckinghamshire, England
  • Death: AFT 1225 in Grainville-la-Teinturiere, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France 1
  • Note:
    GRENVILLE, GRAINVILLE, GREINVILLE, ultimately dukes of Buckingham.

    Grainville-laTeinturiere: Seine-Inferieure, arr. Yvetot, cant. Cany.

    In 1166 Gerard de Grainville held three knights' fees of the old feoffment of the Giffard honour of Buckingham. In the Conqueror's reign, Ralph de Granvilla witnessed a charter of Walter Giffard for the abbey of Cerisy-la-Foret; and the family split into two branches, Norman and English, both under-tenants of Giffard. Charters for Longueville priory show that successive heads of the Norman branch were named Eustace. Eustace seigneur of the Grainville's gift of the church of that place was confirmed by Hugh archbishop of Rouen to the abbey of St-Wandrille between 1142 and 1146; and the fact that thereafter the abbey had the church of Grainville-la-Teinturiere proves the identification. That the Norman and English families were of the same stock is shown by a charter of Louis VIII of 1225 allowing Robert de Grainville to succeed to Grainville on the extinction of the Norman branch, notwithstanding that his father Gerard had died in England.

    The West country Granvilles are quite distinct from the above family. As they first appear as tenants of the honour of Gloucester it is probable that they came from Western Normandy, but their place of origin has not been determined.

    [The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families, p. 47-8]

    NOTE: So Robert left England for Normandy in 1225 (Normandy had separated during the reign of John, and was then under the King of France). I don't think that Robert could have held lands in both Normandy & England simultaneously, as the 2 kingdoms were in constant conflict. There must have been another son Robert who held it in 1236, and in 1244 the main manor of Chilton was taken away and granted to Paul Pever/Peyvre, leaving a manor of Chilton valued at 1/2 knights' fee held by the remainder of the Grenville family.




    Father: Gerard de GRENVILLE , of Chilton & Wotton, Sir b: ABT 1128 in Chilton, Thame, Buckinghamshire, England

    Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
      Children
      1. Has Children Robert de GRENVILLE , of Chilton b: ABT 1175 in Chilton, Thame, Buckinghamshire, England

      Sources:
      1. Title: The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families, by Lewis C Loyd, 1999
        Page: 47-8
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