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  • ID: I37623
  • Name: John de CORMEILLES , of Thruxton & Amport 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: John de /Cormailles/
  • Birth: ABT 1301 in Thruxton, Andover, Hampshire, England
  • Death: AFT 1348 in Amport, Andover, Hampshire, England 2
  • Note:
    The following places John at Thruxton (and also Amport after 1328):

    AMPORT,

    There was a mill at Amport in 1086 worth 20s. In 1328 Thomas de Quarley and John de St. Manifeo, the lords of the manor, granted to John de Cormeilles, lord of Thruxton, and his heirs the water flowing from the mill-wheel in Amport as far as the way which lay on the west of the wheel by the said vill with the right of digging and dredging (fodere etmundare), and making a fish-stew, in return for which John de Cormeilles granted them and their tenants the right of pasturing their cattle on the grass which grew in the water and gathering the said grass for the strawing of their houses.

    From: 'Parishes: Amport', A History of the County of Hampshire: Volume 4 (1911), pp. 337-344. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=56826&strquery=cormeilles Date accessed: 11 June 2012.

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    The following sketches out an ancestry of Cormeilles, but also raises the question: was Goda the daughter (as Douglas Richardson stated) or was she the widow of John de Cormeilles? I am portraying her as daughter, with a mother of the same name.

    THRUXTON,

    In the Testa de Nevill John de Cormeilles is entered as holding a fee there of Robert de Pont de l'Arche, who died in 1247...

    As has been said, Gozelin de Cormeilles held the manor in 1086, and in 1167 Hugh de Cormeilles rendered account for Thruxton. In 1199 Thomas de Cormeilles granted Cecily daughter of Baldred of Tidworth a virgate of land and a mill there for life, which grant was confirmed three years later, on an assize of mort d'ancestor, by William son of Henry de Cormeilles. Others of the name were parties to fines in the succeeding reigns, and John de Cormeilles is entered in the Testa de Nevill as holding a knight's fee in Thruxton. In 1304. John de Cormeilles, whose name occurs a dozen years later as owner of the vill, was granted a weekly market on Monday at his manor of Thruxton, a two days' fairy early on the eve and feast of St. Peter and St. Paul and free warren over his demesne. In 1346, when a subsidy was levied for the knighting of the Black Prince, Isabel de Cormeilles held two parts of a fee in Thruxton. As widow of John she held a life estate in the manor, as appears from a fine levied in 1348, whereby Richard Folks, vicar of the church of Steeple Ashton, granted the manors of Hemblesworth Giffard (co. Dors.) and Thruxton, with the advowson of Thruxton, to John de Cormeilles the younger and Goda his wife and their heirs in tail. This Goda, who outlived her husband, also had a life interest in the manor. She subsequently married John de Buttesthorn, who presented to the living during the episcopacy of William de Edendon (1346-66). Precisely when the Cormeilles family parted with the manor and how the Lisles acquired it has not been discovered, but Sir John de Lisle, who died in 1407, desired to be buried in the church.

    (From: 'Parishes: Thruxton', A History of the County of Hampshire: Volume 4 (1911), pp. 387-391. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=56837&strquery=thruxton Date accessed: 11 June 2012.




    Father: John de CORMEILLES , of Thruxton b: ABT 1270 in Thruxton, Andover, Hampshire, England
    Mother: Isabel b: ABT 1280

    Marriage 1 Goda b: ABT 1305
      Children
      1. Has Children Goda de CORMEILLES b: ABT 1329 in Thruxton, Andover, Hampshire, England

      Sources:
      1. Title: Magna Carta Ancestry, by Douglas Richardson, 2005, Genealogical Publishing Co.
        Page: 329
        Text: John de Cormailles, father of Gouda, no property/place name given
      2. Title: VCH of Hampshire, 1908, William Page, www.british-history.ac.uk
        Page: vol 4, p. 387-91
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