The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I37243
  • Name: Joan FITZWARIN 1
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: AFT 1206 in Whittington, Oswestry, Shropshire, England
  • Death: AFT 1258
  • Note:
    The following was part of a post to SGM, 6 Nov 2006, by Matthew Vernon Connolly:

    By coincidence, as the Fitzwarines are also mentioned in the Tregoz thread, I was looking at Pembridge references on Google Books yesterday and one came up in the old story of 'Fouke le Fitzwaryn' (Histoire de Foulques Fitz-Warin, Francisque Michel, 1840 p.62). Fulk (ie Fulk III) and his wife Maud are given a daughter Joan who married Henry de Pembridge ("ileq fust delyvre de une file qe fust baptize Johane, qe pus fust mariee a sire Henre de Penebrugge.") While of course this may not be accurate, it would be an odd thing to make up, as they weren't that renowned a family (unless they were patrons of the author!). If there is truth in it, chronologically this Joan might have been wife of the Henry who was marrying his sons to the Gamage heiresses in 1254 (no guarantee she would be mother of the sons though).

    However, whether or not they were actual descendants, this is almost certainly why the name Fulk appears in the Pembridge family in 1272 (as there's no evidence yet of any before then); the ODNB entry for the Fitzwarine family dates the composition of the tale to 1258-65 or 'perhaps a little later'.

    Father: Fulk III FITZWARIN , of Whittington & Lambourn b: BEF 1178 in Lambourn, Hungerford, Berkshire, England
    Mother: Maud le VAVASOUR b: ABT 1176 in Hazlewood and Storiths, Skipton, Yorkshire, England

    Marriage 1 Henry de PEMBRUGGE & Weston & Clehonger, Sir b: BEF 1195 in Weston Subedge, Evesham, Gloucestershire, England
      1. Has Children Henry PEMBRUGGE , of Weston & Leigh b: ABT 1227 in Weston Subedge, Evesham, Gloucestershire, England

      1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups -
        Page: Matthew, 6 Nov 2006
        Text: possibly true, would explain the name Fulk in the family after this
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