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  • ID: I32217
  • Name: Elias (Ellis) DOREWARD , of Bromley 1
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1322 in Great Bromley, Tendring, Essex, England
  • Death: BEF 1360 1
  • Note:
    The following is a post to SGM, 31 Jan 2004, by Rosie Bevan, in a response to a post by myself. (Note: I do not agree with her proposal that Ellis/Elias was husband of Anne Martell, but believe him to be father of John Doreward, who was husband of Anne. The dates work better my way, keeping in mind that Elias/Ellis Doreward, son of Walter, was b. aft 1405, so I don't think it was Walter (but probably John, the father of Walter) who was under age in 1371):

    Dear Jim

    From the inquisitions which Brad posted we know that both David and Robert Mortimer are recorded as holding a moiety of Great Bromley manor called "Morleys" and the advowson of the church there. As the Victoria County History series has not covered Tendring Hundred, tracing the descent of this property has met with patchy success. From Domesday it appears that Bromley was already in two halves - one held by Geoffrey de Mandeville and the other by Walter the Deacon. By 1298 Great Bromley was held in chief by the earls of Oxford, when Hawise (de Burgh) de Grelle is recorded as holding a moiety at her death. Her eventual heir was her daughter Joan, wife of John de la Warre.

    The next mention of the manor is found in the inquisition of John de Vere, earl of Oxford in 1360, when William de Morley and the heirs of Ellis Doreward were found to be jointly holding for the service of a knight's fee [CIPM X no. 638]. The Doreward heirs were still minors in 1371 on the death of Thomas de Vere, earl of Oxford, for again the holders were William de Morley and the heirs of Ellis Doreward [CIPM XIII no. 125]. From the piece of information which Jim found, "C 139/91/21, Chancery: Inquisitions Post Mortem, Series I, Henry VI, dated 17 Henry VI Doreward, William, son and heir of the said Elias, son of Walter, son of Anne, sister of Thomas Martell, esq: Essex", we know that Elias Doreward's father was called Walter. He does not appear in any inquisitions post mortem in association with Great Bromley, mainly because the manor is not listed in any de Vere inquisitions during his lifetime, but a Walter Doreward is recorded in 1381/82 as holding half a knight's fee in Kettleburgh, Suffolk, in right of his wife [CIPM XV no. 619]. He is again mentioned in 1400 in the inquisition post mortem of Sir Robert Charles, holding jointly with Robert and Anne his wife, a messuage in Thurton, Norfolk, held of Sir Edward Hastings of his manor of Bergh Apton [CIPM XVIII, no.368]. Robert Charles was also holding the manor of Kettleburgh.

    From this it looks like Ellis/Elias Doreward who died at some unspecified time before 1360 was husband of Anne Martell, and that they were followed by Walter, born after 1350, who may have been married to a Charles of Kettleburgh widow, and he was followed by Elias who died in 1426. Again a comprehensive search of the rolls might complete the picture.

    Cheers

    Rosie

    Note: Rosie's post indicates that there might be some relationship in Elias/Ellis' ancestry with John de la Warre.




    Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
      Children
      1. Has Children John DOREWARD , of Bromley & Rivenhall b: AFT 1350 in Great Bromley, Tendring, Essex, England

      Sources:
      1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Page: Rosie Bevan, 28 Jan 2004
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