The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I32119
  • Name: Clemence le BOTELER 1 2 3
  • Sex: F
  • ALIA: Clemence le /Butiller/
  • Birth: ABT 1175
  • Death: AFT 23 OCT 1231 4
  • Note:
    According to Paul Reed, Rohese was the only child that Clemence had by Nicholad de Verdun.

    Douglas Richardson proposed that Clemence, the wife of Nicholas de Verdun, was mother of John's illegitimate daughter Joan, who was known to be named Clemence. This remains to be proven, although Douglas presented circumstantial evidence for his proposition. At the time he made the proposition, Nicholas de Verdun's wife was thought to be Clemence de Dauntsey. She was later proven to be Clemence de Butiller/Boteler by Paul Reed.




    Father: Philip le BOTELER b: ABT 1157

    Marriage 1 John I "Lackland" Plantagenet King of ENGLAND b: 24 DEC 1166 in Kings Manor House, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
    • Married: BEF 1189 in No Marriage 2
    Children
    1. Has Children Joan PLANTAGENET b: 22 JUL 1190 in Newark Castle, Nottinghamshire, England

    Marriage 2 Nicholas de VERDUN , of Alton, Sir b: AFT 1175 in Alton Castle, Cheadle, Staffordshire, England
    • Married: ABT 1205 in 2nd wife 5
    Children
    1. Has Children Rohese de VERDUN b: ABT 1205 in Alton Castle, Cheadle, Staffordshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Paul Reed, 20 Nov 2001
      Text: Clemence, daughter of Philip le Butiller
    2. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Douglas Richardson, 14 Nov 2001
    3. Title: The Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States, by Gary Boyd Roberts, 1993
      Page: 305, 308
      Text: Joan's mother & mistress of John was "Clemence, possibly Clemence Dauntsey, wife of Nicholas de Verdun." (Clemence le Butiller was wife of Nicholas de Verdun).
    4. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Paul Reed, 17 Nov 2001
    5. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Paul Reed, 17 Nov 2001
      Text: married, say 1205
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