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  • ID: I31785
  • Name: Agnes de CHINY , Dame d'Agimont 1
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: BEF 1212 in Agimont, Namur, Belgium 2
  • Note:
    Believe it or not, Leo van de Pas, citing ES, states that Agnes was mentioned in 1212, making her about 30 years older than her husband. The only other time I have seen anything like this was the marriage of John Wydeville (b. 1445) and Katherine Neville (b. 1397), which was 48 years apart. The latter marriage was confirmed by several people on SGM, stating that money, power, and land were behind the marriage. Probably true in this case as well.

    Leo/ES gives no ancestry for Agnes, but I am placing her as daughter of the last male Chiny, which would make sense if she were a big heiress. Plus the 1212 date would fit with her being a daughter of such a marriage.

    Of course maybe the 1212 date was a slip of the keyboard.




    Father: Louis IV Comte de CHINY b: ABT 1180 in Chiny, Luxemburg
    Mother: Mathilde (Mahaut) d' AVESNES b: ABT 1182 in Avesnes, Artois/Pas-de-Calais, France

    Marriage 1 Hugh IV Comte de RETHEL b: ABT 1242 in Rethel, Ardennes, Champagne-Ardenne, France
    • Married: in 1st wife 3

    Sources:
    1. Title: Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org
      Page: Agnes de Chiny, Dame d'Agimont
    2. Title: Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org
      Page: Agnes de Chiny, Dame d'Agimont
      Text: mentioned 1212
    3. Title: Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org
      Page: Hugh IV Comte de Rethel
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