The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I30471
  • Name: Henry de URTIACO , of Curry Rivell, Sir 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • Name: Henry del ORTIAY , of Curry Rivell, Sir 2
  • Birth: ABT 1190 in l'Ortie, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
  • Death: BEF 1 MAY 1242 in Curry Rivell, Langport, Somerset, England 3 2
  • Note:
    Observations: This family, of whose members so few particulars have been found, has produced a curious peerage record, in that two cousins and namesakes, both wholly undistinguished, each received a single personal summons to Parliament, a summons never repeated to their sons, also namesakes, from each of whom his inheritance passed into the hands of strangers; while the younger of the cousins was summoned only a few months after the sheriff had returned him as too infirm to attend the Great Council of Knights, May 1324, at a time when the heir of his deceased elder cousin was in possession of the fees in respect of which that cousin had been summoned, and was performing his feudal obligations for them.

    The surname del Ortiay (Hortiay), Latinized as de Ortiaco (Urtiaco), derives from l'Ortie, near Avesnes, Department du Nord; by the time of Edward III the form was settled as Lorty. Others of the surname are occasionally found in England eg. Osmund del Ortiel, in Sussex in the 12th century, William de Uriaco, a contemporary of Henry, next named below; their connection with the family here concerned, if any, has not been traced. [Complete Peerage X:180-1]

    Note: The cousin, also a Baron talked about above is Sir Henry 1st Baron de Lorty, son of Walter, who was a younger son of this Henry (Walter is named in note (h) below). Henry, son of Walter would have been 1st cousin to Sir Henry 1st Baron Orty, who was son of Richard.

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    SIR HENRY DEL ORTIAY, described as a knight of Normandy, was in King John's service frorn 1209 onwards, and had from him several grants of forfeited lands. He was constable of Bedford Castle in 1216, and continued in the service of the Crown under Henry III. In March 1224/5 he was appointed, with others, to take charge of Sarum Castle if war should happen in England while the Earl of Salisbury was in Gascony; and in May, with Richard Lovel of Castle Cary and his wife's uncle, Walter de Esselegh (Ashley, Wilts), he aided the sheriff as escort to Winchester Castle of the fifteenth collected for the King in Somerset. Protection was granted, April 1230, to Henry del Ortiay, on going abroad with the King, and in August 1233 he was sent into co. Gloucester on the King's business. He was justice in eyre in Berks and Wilts, 1235.

    He married, before 17 August 1222, Sabine, daughter (and in that year heir) of Richard REVEL the younger, by his wife Mabel, sister (and in 1246 heir) of Walter DE ESSELEGH (g). He died before 1 May 1242 (h). His widow died between August 1253 and 2 April 1254. [Complete Peerage X:181-2, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (g) All of whom are commemorated in a grant by Henry to Muchelney Abbey. The Rev. E.H. Bates, in an article on the family of de Urtiaco, suggests a possible descent of Walter and Mabel de Esselegh from Bretel, the Domesday tenant of Ashbrittle, etc. Mabel offered 100 marks for her relief, 1246. She d. 1252, when her daughter Sabine was aged 40 and more, the relief being again assessed at 100 marks.

    (h) When his widow did homage for her lands in Somerset and Dorset. The younger sons of Henry and Sabine were Henry, John, Walter and William. Their daughter Pernel m. Sir William Marshal, presumably the Sir William, grandfather of William Marshal, Lord Marshal, summoned 1309. The inquisition taken in 1270 to inquire, not on the death of Pernel la Mareschale, who was wife of the late William Marshal, but whether the manor of King's Charlton, Glos., which was hers, was of her free marriage or of the inheritance of her husband, found that it was given her as her marriage portion by her grandmother, Mabel Revel. She must therefore have been married between 1246 and 1252, and must have had issue because he was holding at the time of his forfeiture. After his death (in or before Sep 1265) his widow Elizabeth had a compassionate grant. She may have been the mother of his heir.




    Marriage 1 Sabine (Sabina) REVEL b: BEF 1212 in Curry Rivell, Langport, Somerset, England
    • Married: BEF 17 AUG 1222 2
    Children
    1. Has Children Richard de URTIACO , of Curry Rivell b: ABT 1230 in Curry Rivell, Langport, Somerset, England
    2. Has Children Pernel del ORTIAY b: ABT 1232 in Curry Rivell, Langport, Somerset, England
    3. Has Children Henry LORTY , of Axford b: ABT 1235 in Curry Rivell, Langport, Somerset, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: John Ravilious (Therav3), 28 Sep 2003
    2. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: X:181-2
    3. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: John Ravilious (Therav3), 28 Sep 2003
      Text: 1242
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