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  • ID: I29911
  • Name: Walter (William) de BURGH 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1145 in Burgh, Aylsham, Norfolk, England
  • Death: AFT 1179 4 5
  • Note:
    The following is a post to SGM, 4 Jan 2006, by "CED" (lee smyth), in a round of messages about the potential for an illegitimate dau. of Henry II being the 1st wife of William de Burgh, Lord of Connaught (Walter's eldest son). The post also raises the potential that Walter had 2 wives, with William being son of the 1st. This makes sense if Joan Pouchard, according to Blomefield, supposedly m. Walter, yet Hubert's mother is known to have been named "Alice." That would make Joan mother of William, and Alice mother of Hubert, Thomas, & Geoffrey (Archdeacon of Norwich).


    To the Newsgroup:

    Surprise!

    I agree with Richardson and John Ravilious that there are connections between the Burgh family and Henry II which have not been made apparent in the records now available. For more than two decades I have trod the path between those families looking for clues. So far, the facts don't go where logic carries me. Three questions:

    Who was the mother of Hubert de Burgh and his brother Bp.Geoffrey (and not neccessarily of their brother, William)?

    Who were the parents of Margaret, wife of Richard de Burgh, earl of Ulster (d. 1326)?

    How do we account for the rapid rise (apparently from no place) (a) of the Burghs in Ireland and (b) of Hubert de Burgh (almost singular for a man not in the Church)?

    CED




    Marriage 1 Joan POUCHARD b: ABT 1152 in Burnham Overy, Docking, Norfolk, England
    • Married: in 1st wife
    Children
    1. Has Children William de BURGH , Lord of Connaught, Sir b: ABT 1170 in Burgh, Aylsham, Norfolk, England

    Marriage 2 Alice b: ABT 1152
    • Married: BEF 1171 in 2nd wife
    Children
    1. Has Children Hubert de BURGH , 1st Earl of Kent b: BEF 1172 in Burgh, Aylsham, Norfolk, England
    2. Has No Children Thomas de BURGH , of Arley & Cockfield b: BEF 1178 in Upper Arley, Kidderminster, Staffordshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: VII:133-42 note (a)
      Text: William, suggested father of Hubert
    2. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Douglas Richardson, 2 Jan 2006
      Text: Walter, suggested father of Hubert
    3. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Richard Borthwick, 6 Nov 1998
      Text: probably Walter
    4. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Douglas Richardson, 2 Jan 2006
    5. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Richard Borthwick, 6 Nov 1998
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