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  • ID: I29907
  • Name: Cycely BARDOLF 1 2
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: ABT 1333 in Spixworth, St. Faith's, Norfolk, England
  • Note:
    The following is a post to SGM, 5 May 2002, by Todd A. Farmerie:

    From: Todd A. Farmerie (farmerie AT interfold.com)
    Subject: Re: Bardolf
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 2002-05-05 16:02:01 PST

    [trying to spur some more genealogical discussion . . .]

    As long as we are on this, the Harleian Visitations of Norfolk, 1563, 1589, 1613, in the Yelverton pedigree shows the paternal grandmother of Judge of the King's Bench Sir William Yelverton, K.B. as "Cecily da. to Sir Thomas Bardolfe, knight." While this description underplays the titles and achievements of the 2nd Lord Bardolf, the chronology would be about right, and the arms assigned, "Azure, three cinquefoils or," match those I have seen assigned to the Lords Bardolf. However, the Yelvertons weren't exactly high on the social scale at the time, although they were rising. The Camden's 1613 Visitation of Huntingdon shows the same man ("Robert Yelverton of Rakketh, in com. Norff., Esq.") as marrying Cecelie, da. of Sir Tho. Bardoph, the editor adding "of Spixworth".

    Is this a valid connection at all, and is Thomas, Lord Bardolf the intended man?

    taf

    Note: I originally had Cycely as daughter of Thomas Lord Bardolf & Agnes de Grandison, but there was a conflict because, according to CP, their daughter Cycely married William Morley in 1324/5 and her husband lived a long life, and this was about the same time that Robert Yelverton, who also lived a long life, was getting married to a Cycely Bardolf. As the above indicates, there is no real indication that Thomas, the father of the Cycely who married Robert Yelverton, was Lord Bardolf. In fact the difference in social status and the "of Spixworth" would indicate that he was not Lord Bardolf. Therefore, since Thomas, Lord Bardolf, was known to have a younger son Thomas, and the coats of arms match the Lord Bardolf, and since I believe that this Cycely was a generation later than the Cycely who married William Morley, I am making Thomas, younger son, the father (at least until some proof comes along, one way or the other). @@check ancestry

    Note: Many people state that Spixworth is in Kent. It is not. It is in Norfolk.




    Father: Thomas BARDOLF , of Spixworth, Sir b: ABT 1313 in Spixworth, St. Faith's, Norfolk, England

    Marriage 1 Robert YELVERTON , of Rackheath, Sir b: ABT 1324 in Rackheath, St Faith's, Norfolk, England
      Children
      1. Has Children John YELVERTON , of Rackheath & Rougham, Esq b: ABT 1355 in Rackheath, St Faith's, Norfolk, England

      Sources:
      1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Page: Todd A. Farmerie, 5 May 2002
      2. Title: An Essay towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk, by Francis Blomefield, www.british-history.ac.uk
        Page: vol X, p. 29-38, see notes for John Yelverton, d. c1282
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