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  • ID: I29572
  • Name: William III de COURCY , of Stogursey & Irby 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: William III de /Curcy/, of Stogursey
  • Birth: ABT 1129 in Stogursey, Williton, Somerset, England
  • Death: 1171 in Irby, Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England 4
  • Death: 1176 3 5
  • Note:
    Turton has William, d. 1176 as son of Robert (instead of William) de Courci & Avice de Mischines (His spelling, I say le Meschin: "de" implies a place one is from, which is not the case here as there is no place named Meschin). Turton had Robert as son of another Robert, who m. Rohese Grentemesnil, and that Robert as son of Richard de Curci and Guandalmode.

    However the chart on CP VIII:48/9 shows that William was son of William II de Curcy who married Avice (or Amice) de Rumelli, daughter of William le Meschin & Cicely de Rumelli. William II was son of another William, Sewer of Henry I, who was son of Richard de Curcy of Newenham, Oxon. Richard is presumably the same as the Richard de Curci, husband of Guandalmode in Turton.

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    Chris Phillips looked up two sources on William III (VCH - VIctoria County History for Oxford, & DD - Domesday Descendants (Keats-Rohan)). They had two different death dates (1176, 1171) and VCH stated that Gundrada de Warenne was William's 2nd wife (DD didn't mention any other wife than Gundrada). VCH states that Gundrada held Newenham (Nuneham Courtenay) in dower until her death in 1224.




    Father: William II de COURCY , of Stogursey & Irby, Sir b: ABT 1105 in Stogursey, Williton, Somerset, England
    Mother: Avice le MESCHIN , Heiress of Rougemont b: ABT 1113 in Harringworth, Northumberland, England

    Marriage 1 Gundred (Gundrada) de WARENNE b: ABT 1145 in Lewes, Sussex, England
    • Married: in 1st husband
    Children
    1. Has Children Alice de COURCY b: ABT 1167 in Stogursey, Williton, Somerset, England
    2. Has No Children William IV de COURCY , of Stogursey & Irby b: ABT 1168 in Stogursey, Williton, Somerset, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: VIII:48-9 chart
    2. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Rosie Bevan, 28 Jan 2003
    3. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
      Page: 85
    4. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Chris Phillips, 28 Jul 2003
      Text: citing Domesday Descendants
    5. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Chris Phillips, 28 Jul 2003
      Text: citing VCH
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