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  • ID: I29081
  • Name: Cecilia DUNBAR 1
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: ABT 1273 in Dunbar Castle, East Lothian, Scotland
  • Note:
    Suzanne Doig, in a post to SGM, states that Cecilia, daughter of Patrick, the 7th Earl of Dunbar, and Marjory Comyn, married James Stewart, c1243 - 16 Jul 1309. Others have Cecilia as daughter of Patrick, the 6th Earl of Dunbar, and Christina Bruce, which is the way that I have placed her. She states that she generally based her information on The Complete Peerage (CP), but without any exact references. I have not found the article in CP that mentions Cecilia, and am told that CP does not have any reference to her (thus this particular person is not supported by CP)

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    And concerning Cecilia Dunbar, some other people on soc.genealogy.medieval have stated that she was a "myth" and didn't exist, let alone being married to James Stewart. I do believe that there are no current, reliable published sources that name Cecilia as a wife of James, let alone being mother of Walter, but who knows?

    I have included her as a wife, but not mother of Walter, because I have 3 sources (Ancestral Roots, Magna Charta Sureties, and Burke's Peerage) who say that the mother of Walter Stewart was Egidia or Jill de Burgh. If she was daughter of Patrick, the 7th Earl of Dunbar, as Suzanne Doig stated, then she would probably be born too late to be Walter's mother. Others say Cecilia is the daughter of Patrick, the 6th Earl and a "Christine de Bruce", sister of Robert de Bruce, "The Competitor", who was father of Robert I the Bruce, King of Scotland. CP IV:506 note (a), which identifies Patrick, the 6th Earl's wife as Cecil Fraser, mentions that at least one source, erroneously, names her Christine Bruce.




    Father: Patrick 6th Earl de DUNBAR , Sir b: ABT 1213 in Dunbar Castle, East Lothian, Scotland
    Mother: Christina BRUCE b: ABT 1256 in Annandale, Dumfrieshire, Scotland

    Marriage 1 James STEWART , 5th High Steward of Scotland b: ABT 1243 in Dundonald Castle, Irvine, Ayrshire, Scotland
    • Married: in 2nd wife ? 1

    Sources:
    1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Suzanne Doig, 30 Jun 1998
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