The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I27725
  • Name: John de CRIOL , of Ashburnham, Sir 1
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1085 in Ashburnham, Battle, Sussex, England
  • Note:
    This generation is not in Doug Smith's pedigree. Without this extra generation the pedigree has the father old enough to serve at the Battle of Hastings in 1066 (b. bef. 1048), who's son Bertram dies about 1160, making a 112 year span in two generations. I do get suspicious about most of the 1st generation Norman conquerors in that they all seem to live to be 80 or 90 years old and have children when they are 70 or 80; truly they were super-human.

    Actually I believe that the record keeping was not good enough to correctly track the people from Normandy to England and that there are "extra" generations missing (or added in the case where birth years are "scrunched") in many of the cases. There is a similar problem in tracking our Colonial Ancestors back to their British roots; only a relative few are traceable.

    Thus I am saying that there were two Bertrams in a row, who are easily confused as one, who resided at Essone (now known as Ashburnham) near the town of Battle (named after the Battle of Hastings). Bertram didn't move very far from where his father fought.

    Father: Robert de CRIOL , of Criel & Ashburnham b: ABT 1047 in Criel-sur-Mer, Seine-Inferiure, Normandy, France

    Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
      1. Has Children Bertram de CRIOL , of Ashburnham b: ABT 1110 in Ashburnham, Battle, Sussex, England

      1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups -
        Page: Doug Smith, 18 Apr 2002
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