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  • ID: I26665
  • Name: Rhys II "Jevan" ap GRIFFITH , of Abermarlais, Sir 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 25 DEC 1325 in Abermarlais, Llangadog, Carmarthenshire, Wales 4
  • Death: 27 MAY 1380 in Wychnor, Burton-upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England 5
  • Death: 1381 3
  • Note:
    So the son, Rhys ap Gruffydd, who married (1) Isabel/Elizabeth de Stackpole, heiress of both Stackpole and Turberville lands, and (2) Margaret de Zouche, was unquestionably son and heir of the elder Rhys by his wife Joan de Somerville, coheiress of Sir Philip de Somerville. This younger Rhys ap Griffitz [sic, both bore the 'surname' "ap Griffyth" in the English records] died shortly before 26 May 1380, the date of the writ ordering his inquisition post mortem (CFR 9:205, 260). The lands of Rees ap Griffith, knight, were put into the hands of the king's brotherJohn Holand, knight, during the minority of the heir (Ibid., 200). [Paul Reed (Reedpcgen), soc.genealogy.medieval, newsgroup, 31 Jul 1998]

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    The following is part of a post to SGM by Douglas Richardson, 10 Nov 2005:

    9. RHYS AP GRIFFITH, Knt., of Wichnor (in Tatenhill), Alrewas, Draycott, Newbold, and Tunstall, Staffordshire, Orreby, Lincolnshire, Stockton, Warwickshire, Burton Agnes, Yorkshire, son and heir, born about 25 December 1325, died 1380. He married (1st) before 1370 ISABEL DE STACKPOLE, daughter and heiress of Richard de Stackpole, of Stackpole, Angle and Lony. He married (2nd) before 1377 MARGARET LA ZOUCHE, died 1430, daughter of _____ la Zouche. His widow, Margaret, married (2nd) after 6 November 1385 William Walsall (died 1414), of Rushall, Staffordshire, Knight of the Shire for Staffordshire, Escheator of Shropshire, Staffordshire, and the Welsh Marsh, Sheriff of Shropshire and Staffordshire, 1377, Sheriff of Staffordshire, 1381-1383, 1389-1390, 1396-1399, 1406-1407, Constable of Stafford, Carmarthen and Dynevor castles, Marshal of the Hall to King Richard II, 1395-1399.

    Child of Rhys ap Griffith, Knt., by Isabel de Stackpole:

    i. JOAN GRIFFITH, married RICHARD VERNON, Knt., of Haddon, Derbyshire [see VERNON 9].

    Child of Rhys ap Griffith, Knt., by Margaret Zouche:

    i. THOMAS GRIFFITH, Esq. [see next].

    10. THOMAS [AP] GRIFFITH, Esq., of Wichnor (in Tatenhill), Alrewas, etc., Staffordshire, son and heir, born 19 May 1377, died 1433. He married ANNE BLOUNT, daughter of Walter Blount, Knt., of Barton Blount, Derbyshire, by Sanche de Ayala, daughter of Diego Gomez de Toledo, Alcalde maior de Toledo. Thomas was heir in 1387 to his 1st cousin, Margaret, wife of William de Carnaby (daughter of his uncle, Henry ap Griffith, Knt.).

    NOTE: See notes for wife Margaret la Zouche as to her likely ancestry.




    Father: Rhys "Hen" ap GRIFFITH , of Llansadwrn, Sir b: BEF 1288 in Llansadwrn, Llandovery, Carmarthenshire, Wales
    Mother: Joan SOMERVILLE , Heiress of Wychnor b: ABT 1310 in Wychnor, Burton-upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England

    Marriage 1 Isabel Heiress of STACKPOLE b: ABT 1345 in Stackpole Elidor, Pembrokeshire, Wales
    • Married: BEF 1370 in 1st wife 6 7
    Children
    1. Has Children Joan (Joanna) verch RHYS , Heiress of Stackpole b: 1370 in Stackpole Elidor, Pembrokeshire, Wales

    Marriage 2 Margaret la ZOUCHE b: ABT 1358 in Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England
    • Married: BEF 1377 in 1st husband 2nd wife 8 7
    Children
    1. Has Children Thomas GRIFFITH , of Wychnor & Alrewas, Esq b: 19 MAY 1377 in Wychnor, Burton-upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: note at end of line 56a
    2. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Robert O'Connor, 26 Sep 1999
    3. Title: Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org
      Page: Rhys ap Griffith the younger
    4. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Douglas Richardson, 8 Nov 2005
    5. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Robert O'Connor, 26 Sep 1999
      Text: 1380
    6. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: note at end of line 56a
      Text: no date, 1st wife
    7. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Douglas Richardson, 10 Nov 2005
    8. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: note at end of line 56a
      Text: no date, 2nd wife
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