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  • ID: I26508
  • Name: John BEAUCHAMP , of Holt, Sir 1
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 1319 in Holt, Martley, Worcestershire, England 1
  • Death: BEF 1367 1
  • Note:
    Douglas Richardson, in a post to SGM 5 Sep 2003, reveals that CP missed a generation of the Beachamp family of Holt:

    Dear Newsgroup ~

    As a followup to Ian Cairns' good post, I had a chance to examine the available records of the Beauchamp family of Holt, co. Worcester today. Surprisingly, it appears that there was an extra generation of this family which was entirely overlooked by the editor of Complete Peerage, he having collapsed two John de Beauchamps into one individual. The two successive generations of John de Beauchamps are separated into their respective lives and marriages below. It appears it was the senior John de Beauchamp who was the papal envoy in 1363. And, it was the junior John de Beauchamp who was created Lord Beauchamp of Kidderminster in 1387. The material not only corrects Complete Peerage, but also the index of the published Papal Registers, the editor of which mistakenly identified the 1363 papal envoy as John
    Beauchamp, of Powick, a distant kinsman of this family.

    The two successive John de Beauchamp's listed below are in the ancestry of one colonial immigrant, namely Jane Haviland, as well as H.R.H. Charles, Prince of Wales.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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    I. JOHN BEAUCHAMP, Knt., of Holt, co. Worcester, Hawridge, co. Buckingham, etc., Knight of the Shire for Worcestershire, 1352, son
    and heir of Richard de Beauchamp, of Holt, co. Worcester, by his wife, Eustache, born about 1319 (aged 8 in 1327). He married before 8 Kal.
    Apr. 1345 (date of indult) ISABEL (or ELIZABETH) ATTWOOD, daughter of Robert Attwood, Knt. They had three sons, John, Knt. [Lord Beauchamp
    of Kidderminster], William, and Thomas, and one daughter, Elizabeth. He was in the sea fight at Sluys in 1340, and served in the French
    wars "from the time of the passage to Normandy all the while the king was abroad." In 1343 he and his wife, Isabel, received a papal indult
    for plenary remission. He fought in the king's company at Crecy, and was subsequently at the siege of Calais. He returned to England by
    Michaelmas 1348, at which time he bought a small estate at Hanley Child, and settled it on himself and his wife, Isabel, for life, with
    successive remainders to his sons, William and Thomas. Afterwards he went back to the wars in France, and seems to have served in the
    Poitiers campaign. In 1357 he obtained a grant of 12 yearly for his good service. In 1363 he served as a papal envoy for Edward the Black
    Prince. SIR JOHN DE BEAUCHAMP died before 1367.

    Father: Richard BEAUCHAMP , of Holt, Sir b: ABT 1280 in Holt, Martley, Worcestershire, England
    Mother: Eustache b: ABT 1284

    Marriage 1 Isabel (Elizabeth) dau. of Sir Robert ATTWOOD b: ABT 1326 in Heathy Manor, Dunclent, Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England
    • Married: BEF APR 1345 1
    1. Has No Children John 1st Baron BEAUCHAMP , of Kidderminster, Sir b: ABT 1347 in Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England

    1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups -
      Page: Douglas Richardson, 5 Sep 2003
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