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  • ID: I26013
  • Name: Malise 8th Earl of STRATHEARN , Caithness &Orkney 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: 8th Earl of /Strathearn/, Malise Malisson
  • Name: 13th Earl of CAITHNESS , Malise Earl - Strathearn 3
  • Name: 38th Jarl of ORKNEY , Malise Earl of Strathearn 4
  • Birth: ABT 1299 in Strathearn, Perthshire, Scotland
  • Birth: ABT 1290 2
  • Death: BEF 11 NOV 1357 in (dspm) 5 6
  • Note:
    Malise (son of another Malise, Earl of Strathearn, who died by 1320, and his wife Agnes (died in or after 1311), through the latter of whom the son may have been heir to the Caithness Earldom), self-styled in 1334 Earl of the Earldoms of Strathern (sic), Caithness and Orkney; b c1290; seems to have enjoyed revenues of a quarter of the Earldom of Caithness 1331; m. 1st by 1320 Mary; m. 2nd by 1334 Maud, daughter of Hugh 4th Earl of Ross, by Maud, sister of Robert I (The Bruce) King of Scots and dspm between 1344 and 1350, having been attainted 1332 and his honours forfeited. [Burke's Peerage]

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    EARLDOM OF STRATHEARN [SCT] (VIII)

    MALISE, EARL OF STRATHEARN [SCT], son and heir, by 1st wife, succeeded his father in that Earldom between 1323 and 1329 and succeeded his cousin, Magnus V, as EARL OF CAITHNESS AND ORKNEY [SCT], between 1320 and 1329, though holding no more than a 4th part of Caithness. Apparently at some time between 24 September and 16 December 1332, he resigned the Earldom of Strathearn "by staff and baton into the hands of Edward Baliol, by reason of a contract between said Malise and the lord John earl of Warenne our said lord the king's [David II] mortal enemy, in prejudice of the king's majesty, renouncing all claim of law to said earldom for himself and his heirs for ever." In the Parliament [SCT] that met at Scone, 7 June 1344, the Earl, after trial by assize, was declared innocent of felony and treason in so surrendering the Earldom, but the validity of his resignation thereof was confirmed, it being "deemed, and given for doom, that the said earldom should remain to our said lord the king, to be possessed at his will." His Earldoms of Caithness and Orkney were not affected by the resignation or these proceedings and he continued to style himself Earl of Strathearn, &c. He is said to have fought in the 4th line (with the Earls of Ross and Sutherland who were there killed) at Halidon Hill 19 July 1333.

    He married, perhaps circa 1325-28, Marjory (or Mary), daughter of Hugh, EARL OF ROSS [SCT], by Maud, sister of ROBERT I, KING OF SCOTLAND, daughter of Robert DE BRUS, jure uxoris EARL OF CARRICK [SCT]. He died sp.m. between June 1344 and Martinmas (11 November) 1357. Marjory was living in 1350. [Complete Peerage XII/1:385-7, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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    Note: There is a difference between CP & BP about the timing of Malise's marriage to Marjory & the existence of a 1st wife. The BP article agrees with the CP article on Malise as Earl of Caithness, which is in CP II:476, which is an earlier volume than XII/1, and was correct by volume XIV to agree with the above information from XII/1; thus the BP information is probably outdated as well. I believe that BP is a little early with its c1290 birth date (as is CP II:476); Malise's father was born c1275-80, which allows only 10-15 years between generations; also according to his marriage date, 1299 is more appropriate.

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    EARLDOM of CAITHNESS (XIII) 1328? to 1332

    NORSE PREDECESSORS of the EARLS of ORKNEY - subject to King of Norway until after 1379

    Malise, 8th Earl of Strathearn, who had suc. his father, Malise, 7th Earl, as such between 1323 and 1329, as Earl of Orkney and Earl of Caithness, of which he had no more than a quarter. The Earldom of Strathearn was declared forfeited by King Edward Balliol in 1334, and conferred by him upon John de Warenne, 8th Earl of Surrey (1305 to 1347). Although after the recovery of the kingdom from the English the Earl was, after trial before the High Steward as Lieutenant of the Kingdom, acquitted of high treason, the Earldom of Strathearn was not restored to him, but was given (9 Feb. 1343/4) to Maurice Moray (the husband of his stepmother, the Countess Joan) by King David II. On 28 May 1344 he granted the wardship and marriage of his daughter Isabel, described as the heiress of the Earldom of Caithness, to her maternal uncle William, 5th Earl of Ross. He was living on 10 June 1344, when he was again accused, in Parl., of having surrendered the Earldom of Strathearn and having made a contract with John de Warenne, Earl of Surrey, and was defended, in his absence, by his brother-in-law the Earl of Ross and Roger, Bishop of Ross. Malise m., about 1334, Marjory, da. of Hugh, 4th Earl of Ross, by his 1st wife, Maud, sister of King Robert I, and had issue 1. Maud, m. Wayland de le Arde, whose son, Alexander de le Arde, resigned his claim to the Earldom of Caithness to King Robert II 1375, and d.s.p. 2. Eupheme, alive in Kirkwall 20 Jan. 1364/5, m. Guthorm Spar, and their son, Malise Spar of Skuldale, was a claimant to the Earldom of Orkney. 3. Agnes or Annot (d. 1360), m. Erngisl, son of Sune, whose father was son of John son of Bryniolf (see below). 4. Isabel, m. William St. Clair, 3rd Laird of Rosalyn, and her son Henry became Earl of Orkney (2 August 1379). [Complete Peerage, X:Appendix A:30-1]




    Father: Malise 7th Earl of STRATHEARN , Sir b: BET 1275 AND 1280 in Strathearn, Perthshire, Scotland
    Mother: Unknown First WIFE b: ABT 1280

    Marriage 1 Marjorie (Mary) of ROSS b: ABT 1310 in Fearn, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland
    • Married: BET 1325 AND 1328 7
    Children
    1. Has Children Isabel of STRATHEARN b: ABT 1335 in Strathearn, Perthshire, Scotland

    Sources:
    1. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XII/1:385-7
    2. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
      Page: 469
    3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: II:476
    4. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: X:Appendix A:30-1
    5. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XII/1:385-7
      Text: bet June 1344 - 11 Nov 1357
    6. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
      Page: 469
      Text: bet 1344 - 1350
    7. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XII/1:386
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