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  • ID: I25283
  • Name: Gervase (George) de CLIFTON , Sir 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1411 in Clifton, Newark, Nottinghamshire, England 2
  • Birth: ABT 1405 3
  • Death: 6 MAY 1471 in Beheaded after Battle of Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England 1 3
  • Note:
    I originally had the two Gervase Cliftons reversed (along with their wives), until the post by Brad Verity & Rosie Bevan indicated that the Gervase who was married to Isabel Herbert & Maud Stanhope was obviously the younger of my two Gervases. Brad & Rosie don't give an ancestry for this Gervase, but the Visitation of Notts does (although it is a little confused).

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    Source: Herald's Visitation of Notts 1662-4, p. 17.

    Knight, married twice, d. in "Teuxbury".

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    The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 22 Aug 2002, by Rosie Bevan:

    From: "Rosie Bevan" (rbevan AT paradise.net.nz)
    Subject: Re: Scott/Fynch/Clifton Connection
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 2002-08-22 14:25:55 PST

    Dear Brad

    [snip]

    According to the Visitation of Suffolk 1561, John Jernegan was son of John Jernegan of Somerleyton d. 1474 and Jane/Agnes, da. of Sir John Darrell of Calehill, Kent.
    John Jernegan d. 1503 and Isabel Clifton had the following issue
    1. Edward. Married Margaret (d. 1504) da. of Sir Edmund Bedingfield.
    Secondly mary da. and coh of Richard Scrope of Bolton.
    2. Sir Richard
    3. Daughter stated to have married Palmer
    4. Daughter stated to have married ---- Scott of Kimberley, Kent
    5. [Elizabeth] Married Thomas Aslake
    6. Mary. Married Thomas Stanhope of Rampton, Notts.

    In William Betham, The Baronetage of England, 1801, v.1 p.51 under the pedigree of Clifton of Clifton, Nottinghamshire (which is somewhat confused) there is the following footnote:

    "About this time (Dr Thoroton says) there was a famous Sir Gervase Clifton of this family, who has been thought to be son of this Sir John Clifton ; but whether he was son, brother or cousin, I cannot yet discover. He married Isabel, daughter of ----- Harbare, alias Finch, of Bradbourn in Kent and widow of William Scot ; and was several times in the reign of of Henry VI sheriff of Kent. He was (1445) lieutenant of Dover castle, under Humphrey Duke of Gloucester. The king (1451) upon the resignation of Sir Richard Vernon, made him, for his good services, treasurer of Calais and the marches of the same; and the next year following granted the temporaliries of the archbishoprick of Canterbury unto his hands, upon the death of John the archbishop. he was a commander at several places in France. After Robert Lord Willoughby of Eresby and Thomas Nevil, he was third husband to Maud, neice [sic] and co-heir of Ralph Lord Cromwell, by Maud, his sister, second wife of Richard Stanhope. In a pardon he had 9 Edw IV he was styled Gervas Clifton, Knt, late of Bradbourn, alias of Eresby, in the county of Lincoln; but continuing his zeal to his old master's interest, he was (1470) dispatched at tewkesbury, and (1471) among the rest, proclaimed rebel and traitor. he left issue by his first wife two daughters, Joan married to John Digges, and Isabell to John Jerningham. he bore the same arms with this family, as appears by his seal"[i.e. Clifton of Clifton, Notts]

    Cheers

    Rosie

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    The above post by Rosie Bevan was in response to a post to SGM, 22 Aug 2002, by Brad Verity:

    From: Brad Verity (batruth AT hotmail.com)
    Subject: Scott/Fynch/Clifton Connection
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 2002-08-22 01:48:14 PST

    I'm trying to figure out the following PRO document:

    C 1/67/234 John Jernyngham, esquire, and Isabel, his wife, daughter of Sir Gervase Clyfton, knight, and of Isabel Scott, his wife, previously the wife and executrix of William Scott, father of Sir John Scott, half brother to the said Isabel. v. John Foster, son and executor of dame Agnes . 2 Ric. III

    I know that Sir Gervase Clifton married 2ndly, in 1461, Maud Stanhope, Lady Willoughby, widow of Sir Thomas Neville (brother of Warwick the Kingmaker), and previously of Robert, 6th Lord Willoughby. Sir Gervase, a staunch Lancastrian, was beheaded 6 May 1471 after the battle of Tewkesbury. His widow Maud died 30 Aug 1497. Sir Gervase was said to be illegitimate and about aged 50 when he married Lady Willoughby.

    Sir Gervase and Lady Willoughby's relations with his daughter Isabel Jernyngham and her half-brother John Scott were not always smooth, as the following PRO document shows:

    C 1/66/93 John Scot, knight, and John Jernegam, esquire, sureties to the king for Gervase Clyfton, knight, and dame Maude, his wife, lady Wyllughby. v. The said Maude, lady Wyllughby.: Refusing to allow complainants to receive the profits of the manors of Erysby, Spyllysby, Hanby, Stapyngtoft, Tonby Park, and Willughby. 18 Edw. IV

    Sir Gervase's first wife, Isabel Scot, had died in 1457, and they were married sometime after 1433, when her first husband died. A post to the newsgroup by Adrian Channing on 18 Nov 1998 helps further identify Sir Gervase's first wife:

    "WILLIAM SCOTT (-1433); Sir; In Temp Hy VI in the right of his wife held Bradborne court lodge, Kent; By 1428 moved to Scotts hall (formally Hall manor), Smeeth parish, Kent); m1 Joan sis&ch (with Magraet m WILLIAM PARKER of Warehorne) of Sir RICHARD ORLESTON (-1419/20) who brought him Orleston manor, Kent, Capel and Ham manors both Warehorne parish, Kent; m2 Isabel [vis named Elizabeth and only m] d of VINCENT HERBERT alias FINCH (she m2 Sir GERVAS CLIFTON)"

    PRO documents also connect this Vincent (alias Finch) family to Sir Gervase, who was a feoffee to a William Fynch:

    C 1/17/155 Dionise and Parnel, sisters of William Fynch, esq. v. Sir
    Gervais Clyfton, knt., Richard Luekenore, esq., and Thomas atte Welle, feoffees.: Manors, lands, &c. (unspecified): Sussex.

    C 1/25/182 John, son of William Fynche. v. Sir Gervays Clyfton, knt., Richard Leukenore, esq., and Thomas atte Welle, feoffees.: Manors of Netherfield (Nedderfeld), Itynton, and Icklesham (Ikelysham), and lands, &c. in Hodesdale, Hooe, Catsfield (Catesfeld), Battle, and Brightling (Brithelyng). 33 (Hen. VI).

    So we seem to have the following:

    Isabel Vincent (alias Fynch), married 1st, William Scott, of Scott's Hall, Kent, who died in 1433, and had issue,

    1A) Sir John Scott, of Scott's Hall, who became comptroller of the household of Edward IV and Knight Marshal of Calais.

    Isabel Scott married, 2ndly, aft 1433, Sir Gervase Clifton (b. abt. 1411, d. 1471), illegitimate son of ???? (said to be of the Cliftons of Clifton, Nottinghamshire), and died 1457, having had further issue,

    1B) Isabel Clifton, married John Jernyngham, esquire. Issue???

    The Jernynghams were involved in some lawsuits against John Forster and his mother Dame Agnes Forster over some properties in Kent:

    C 1/57/207 John Jernyngham, esquire, and Isabel, his wife, daughter and heir of Sir Jervase Clyfton, knight. v. Agnes and John Forster: Manors of Haryng and Clyderhous, and three parts of the manor of Selling.: Kent.

    C 1/53/189 John Jernyngham, esquire, and Elizabeth, his wife, daughter and heir of Sir Gervise of Clyfton, knight. v. John Foster: Manors of .... and Haring, and land in Selling by Horton Monachorum, Lymme and Wodechurch.: Kent.

    But how Dame Agnes Forster and her son John fit into the picture, I'm not sure.

    If anyone has any further info, I'd appreciate it.

    Best regards, -------Brad Verity




    Father: Gervase (George) de CLIFTON , Sir b: ABT 1388 in Clifton, Newark, Nottinghamshire, England
    Mother: Isabel FRAUNCEYS b: ABT 1390 in Promverk, Derbyshire, England

    Marriage 1 Isabella (Elizabeth) HERBERT b: ABT 1400 in Netherfield, Battle, Sussex, England
    • Married: AFT 1433 in 2nd husband 1st wife 2 4
    Children
    1. Has Children Isabel (Elizabeth) CLIFTON b: ABT 1438 in Clifton, Newark, Nottinghamshire, England

    Marriage 2 Maud dau. of Sir Richard STANHOPE , of Rampton b: ABT 1430 in Rampton, East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
    • Married: 1461 in 3rd husband 2nd wife 2
    • Married: BEF 20 MAR 1462/63 in 3rd husband 2nd wife 1 3

    Sources:
    1. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XII/2:666
    2. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Brad Verity, 22 Aug 2002
    3. Title: Magna Carta Ancestry, by Douglas Richardson, 2005, Genealogical Publishing Co.
      Page: 221
    4. Title: Magna Carta Ancestry, by Douglas Richardson, 2005, Genealogical Publishing Co.
      Page: 221
      Text: no date, 2nd husb 1st wife
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