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  • ID: I24873
  • Name: Ralph FITZWILLIAM , of Brompton & Withycombe 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: Ralph /FitzDurand/, of Brompton & Withycombe
  • Birth: ABT 1150 in Brompton Ralph, Williton, Somerset, England
  • Death: ABT 1212 in Withycombe, Williton, Somerset, England (dspm) 2
  • Note:
    Ralph FITZWILLIAM, of Brompton Ralph and Withycombe, which Isabel [his grandaughter] held the manor of Brown in Treborough, a third of the original manor of Withycombe, and other lands. [Complete Peerage VIII:534-5]

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    Manor of Brompton Ralph, Somerset:

    Frithogyth, wife of King Aethelheard, gave 5 hides at Brompton to Glastonbury Abbey c. 729. By 1066 the abbey had lost the estate to Brictric. William I granted it to William de Mohun, of whose honor of Dunster it was held until 1627 or later. William's tenant in 1086 was Turgis. In 1166 the estate was almost certainly one of the 5 fees held by William son of Durand (d. before 1194) under William de Mohun. Ralph, son of William and grandson of Durand, who gave his name to the estate to distinguish it from Brompton Regis, married Yolande, sister of his overlord William de Mohun, and secured a remittance of scutage from his estate at Brompton. Ralph, who may have been dead by 1212, had three daughters: Lucy, wife of William Malet, Hilary, wife of John FitzUrse, and Isabel, wife successively of Hugh Peverel and of Nicholas FitzMartin.

    ['Parishes: Brompton Ralph', A History of the County of Somerset: Volume 5 (1985), pp. 19-25. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk]

    NOTE: Apparently Isabel was a grandaughter according to CP (not daughter, as indicated above). I have her as daughter of Hilary & John FitzUrse. The rest of the above article chases the descent through Lucy (who held Brompton Ralph), whose descendants do not tie in with any people connected with my ancestry (Merriotts and Wellingtons).

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    The following is copied from a Withycombe Manor website, which indicates that Isabel may have been his daughter (not granddaughter as CP states) and gives a few of the ancestors/predecessors of Ralph FitzWilliam, http://www.withycombe.org.uk/parish.html:

    The information contained in this section comes in large part from Maxwell Lyte's "Some Somerset Manors" (Somerset Record Society, extra series, 1931) and also from Savage's "History of the Hundred of Carhampton" (1830), where he mostly quotes the earlier Collinson.

    After the Norman Conquest the whole of the manor of Withycombe was given to Geoffrey, the bishop of Coutances (in Normandy): Edmer held it on his behalf. Geoffrey was much more of a soldier than an ecclesiastic. He fought bravely for his King at Hastings and in subsequent battles and was well rewarded, being presented with no less than two hundred and eighty lordships in England. He possessed seventy manors in Somerset alone, including Culbone and Withycombe. He died in 1093 and the manor passed to his nephew, the Earl of Northumberland. Two years later the Earl, Robert de Moubray, was stripped of his lands for rebelling against William II, and Lyte speculates that it was then that William de Mohun, the first Norman lord of Dunster Castle, acquired the manor (being already in possession of much land in the area).

    A kinsman of William de Mohun named Durand (called variously D. the Steward or D. de Mohun) or Durand's son William fitz Durand subsequently held the manor of Withycombe in fee, together with other lands. William fitz Durand was succeeded by his son Ralph fitz Durand: he married Yolenta, the sister of the current lord of Dunster, William de Mohun IV; who, in consideration of the marriage, remitted the scutage (military service) due from the manor of Withycombe. The marriage took place between 1177 and 1194.

    Ralph died around 1212, leaving three daughters: Lucy (relict of William Malet), Ilaria (wife of Richard of Combe) and Isabel (wife of Hugh Peverel). A dispute and a lengthy court case ensued, which resulted in the division of the manor of Withycombe into thirds (around 1238). Lucy Malet, the senior co-heiress, inherited the manor and the advowson of the church, which she held directly under the lord of Dunster. Ilaria and Isabel each held a third of the manor directly under Lucy, although Lucy quit-claimed to her overlord the rights of service that her sisters owed to her in return for the lands. The third part that was left in Lucy's sole control was that which was much later known as Withycombe Wyke; Ilaria's subsidiary third was later known as Withycombe Hadley; Isabel's we will call Withycombe Peverel, simply for the sake of clarity.




    Father: William FITZDURAND , of Withycombe & Brompton b: ABT 1125 in Withycombe, Williton, Somerset, England

    Marriage 1 Yolande (Yolenta) de MOHUN b: ABT 1166 in Oakham, Rutland, England
    • Married: BET 1177 AND 1194
    Children
    1. Has Children Hilary FITZWILLIAM , Heir of Brown & Withycombe b: ABT 1195 in Withycombe, Williton, Somerset, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: VIII:534
    2. Title: VCH - Somerset - URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk
      Page: V:19-25
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