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  • ID: I24776
  • Name: John TALBOT , 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, KG, Sir 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: 5th\2nd Earl of /Shrewsbury/, John Talbot
  • Birth: 12 DEC 1413 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England 4 5 6
  • Death: 10 JUL 1460 in Battle of Northampton, Northamptonshire, England 1 2 3
  • Burial: Worksop Priory, Nottinghamshire, England
  • Note:
    Sir John Talbot, KG, b. 1413, d. 10 July 1460, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, Lord Treasurer of England; m. c 1444-48, Elizabeth Butler, b. 1420, d. 8 Sep 1473. [Ancestral Roots]

    Note: Marriage date is off--doesn't agree with 7-34, which is on the opposite page, nor with CP.

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    EARLDOM OF SHREWSBURY (V, 2) 1453

    JOHN (TALBOT), EARL OF SHREWSBURY, LORD TALBOT, &c., also EARL OF WATERFORD [IRL], 1st son and heir by 1st wife; born about 1413; K.B. 19 May 1426, at Leicester; served in France 1434 and 1442; on the Commission of the Peace, co. Derby, 23 November 1441; co. York (West Riding) 16 March 1441/ 2; Herts, 18 May 1443; Notts, 27 November 1443; King's Knight, before 27 May 1443; Chancellor of Ireland, 12 August 1446; Commissioner to treat for a loan to maintain the war, cos. Derby, Notts, Salop, 25 September 1449; Commissioner of Oyer and Terminer, Kent, 2 February 1449/50; P.C. before 21 November 1453; one of the Lords who undertook to keep the sea for 3 years, April 1454; Commissioner to raise money for the defence of Calais, 14 May 1455; summoned to Parliament 26 May 1455 to 26 May 1458; joint Farmer of the subsidy and alnage of cloths, co. and city of York and Kingston upon Hull, 5 August 1455. He was Treasurer of England 5 October 1456 till October 1458; nominated K.G. before 13 May, installed 14 May 1457; joint Keeper of the King's mews and falcons, 20 October 1457; Chief Butler for life, 6 May 1458; Chief justice of Chester, 24 February 1458/9; Steward of Wakefield 1459; Steward of Ludlow, 20 June 1460.

    He married, before March 1444/5, Elizabeth, daughter of James (BUTLER), 4th EARL OF ORMOND [IRL], by his 1st wife, Joan, daughter of William (BEAUCHAMP), LORD ABERGAVENNY. He died 10 July 1460, being slain (with his brother Sir Christopher Talbot) at the battle of Northampton, fighting on the Lancastrian side, and was buried (with his mother) in Worksop Priory. M.I. His widow appears to have intended to take the veil after his death, but she had a Royal licence to marry whom she pleased without impeachment or hindrance, 6 February 1463/4. She died 8 and was buried 11 September 1473, in Shrewsbury Abbey. M.I. [Complete Peerage XI:704-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]




    Father: John TALBOT , 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, KG, Sir b: ABT 1384 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
    Mother: Maud NEVILLE , 6th Baroness Furnival b: ABT 1392 in Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England

    Marriage 1 Elizabeth BUTLER b: 1420 in Kilkenny Castle, Kilkenny, Irela
    • Married: BEF MAR 1444/45 7 8 9
    Children
    1. Has Children Anne TALBOT b: ABT 1445 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
    2. Has No Children John TALBOT , 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury, Sir b: 12 DEC 1448 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
    3. Has Children Gilbert TALBOT , of Grafton, KG, Sir b: 1452 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 8-35, 7-34
    2. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 24-10
    3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XI:704-5
    4. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 8-35, 7-34
      Text: 1413
    5. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 24-10
      Text: 1413
    6. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XI:704-5
      Text: 1413
    7. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XI:705
      Text: c 1444-5
    8. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 7-34
    9. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 24-10
      Text: c 1444-8
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