The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I24311
  • Name: Eleanor 1 2 3
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: ABT 1270
  • Death: BEF 8 SEP 1331 in Burgh Wallis, Doncaster, Yorkshire West Riding, England 4 5
  • Death: BEF 19 OCT 1330 6
  • Note:
    He married, 2ndly, Alianore. He died shortly before 4 April 1304, aged 60, and was buried in the Abbey of Holm Cultram. His widow married, without licence, between 2 December 1304. and 8 February 1305/6, Sir Richard LE WALEYS, of Burgh Wallis, co. York [LORD WALEYS]. She died between 13 April and 8 September 1331. [Complete Peerage II:360, XIV:151, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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    He m. 2ndly, Eleanor. He resided latterly in England, and died there or in Palestine, 1304, before 14 June, and was buried at Holmcultram. His widow m. in 1305/6, as his 1st wife, Richard Waleys (Lord Waleys). She d. between 16 Mar and 19 Oct 1330. [Complete Peerage, III:55-56]

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    He [Robert de Brus] m. (2) Eleanor by whom he had Isabel, m. Thomas Randolph, Chamberlain of Scotland. Eleanor m. (2) Sir Richard de Waleys, and d. between 13 Apr and 8 Sep 1331. [Magna Charta Sureties]

    Note: MCS & CP state that Eleanor was 2nd wife, but Isabel & Thomas Randolph's son, also a Thomas Randolph, according to Burke's Peerage & CP, became Earl of Moray in 1312 & fought at Bannockburn in 1314. If Isabel wasn't born until 1292/3 then Thomas would have been very young in 1312 & 1314 (ie. If Isabel gave birth at 10 years old, Thomas would have just been born in 1312). Therefore Isabel was definitely daughter of a first wife, I think Margaret/Marjorie, since all 3 sources say she was 1st wife (this would make Isabel a full-blooded sister of Robert I the Bruce--CP didn't say "half-sister"). If Eleanor was mother of Isabel & his 2nd wife, then the only explanation would be that Eleanor was a long-time mistress who bore Isabel before/early-in his marriage and finally married him after his wife died.




    Marriage 1 Robert 1st Baron de BRUS , Earl of Carrick b: JUL 1243 in Annandale, Dumfrieshire, Scotland
    • Married: AFT 1292 in 1st husband 2nd wife 7 8

    Marriage 2 Richard 1st Baron le WALEYS , of Burghwallis b: ABT 1270 in Burgh Wallis, Doncaster, Yorkshire West Riding, England
    • Married: BET 1305 AND 1306 in 2nd husband 1st wife 9

    Sources:
    1. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 41-4
    2. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: III:56, II:360
    3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: XII/2:320-1
    4. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 41-4
      Text: between 13 Apr and 8 Sep 1331
    5. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: II:360
      Text: between 13 Apr and 8 Sep 1331
    6. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: III:56
      Text: between 16 Mar and 19 Oct 1330
    7. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 41-4
      Text: date implied by death of 1st wife
    8. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: III:56
      Text: date implied by death of 1st wife
    9. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: III:56
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