The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I22902
  • Name: Eleanor de HOLAND 1 2 3 4 5
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: ABT 1374 in Upholland, Wigan, Lancashire, England
  • Death: BET 6 AND 18 OCT 1405 3 4
  • Death: 23 OCT 1405 6
  • Note:
    Eleanor (Holand) de Mortimer, d. Oct 1405, (sister of, not same as Eleanor [who married Thomas de Montagu]), eldest daughter of Thomas de Holand, 2nd Earl of Kent. [Magna Charta Sureties, line 30-8]

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    He [Roger de Mortimer] married, circa 1388, Eleanor, daughter and in her issue coheir of his guardian, Thomas (DE HOLAND), EARL OF KENT. He died 20 July 1398, being slain at Kells by O'Brien's men.[m] His body was brought to England for burial at Wigmore. Dower was assigned to his widow 29 November 1398. She married, in June 1399, Edward (CHERLETON), LORD CHERLETON, feudal lord of Powys. She died 6 (or 18) October 1405. [Complete Peerage VIII:448-50, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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    He [Edward Cherleton] married, 1stly, in June 1399, after 19 June, when she had lic. to marry whom she would, Eleanor , widow of Roger (DE MORTIMER), EARL OF MARCH, daughter of Thomas (DE HOLAND), EARL OF KENT, by Alice, daughter and in her issue coheir of Richard (FITZALAN), 10th or 3rd EARL OF ARUNDEL. She died in childbed, 23 October 1405. He died s.p.m., 14 March 1420/1. On the death of Edward Cherleton any Barony which may be supposed to have been created by the writ of 1313, fell into abeyance between his two daughters arid coheirs by his 1st wife. [Complete Peerage III:161, XIV:169, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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    When referring to the Eleanor who married Thomas de Montagu 23 May 1399, in line 94-9, Magna Charta Sureties states, "Eleanor de Holand, 4th daughter, sister (not the same Eleanor) of the Eleanor who married Edward Cherlton."

    Thus there are two Eleanors in the same family. This is the elder one who married (1) Roger de Mortimer and (2) Edward Cherlton.




    Father: Thomas de HOLAND , 2nd Earl of Kent, KG, Sir b: ABT 1350 in Broughton, Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire, England
    Mother: Alice FITZALAN b: ABT 1350 in Arundel, Essex, England

    Marriage 1 Roger de MORTIMER , 4th Earl of March & Ulster b: 11 APR 1374 in Usk, Monmouthshire, England
    • Married: 7 OCT 1388 in 1st husband 7 8
    Children
    1. Has Children Anne de MORTIMER , Countess of March b: 27 DEC 1390 in New Forest, West Meath, Ireland
    2. Has No Children Edmund de MORTIMER , 5th Earl of March, KB b: 6 NOV 1391 in New Forest, Hampshire, England
    3. Has No Children Alienor (Eleanor) de MORTIMER b: ABT 1393 in New Forest, Hampshire, England

    Marriage 2 Edward 5th Baron CHERLETON , of Powys, KG, Sir b: ABT 1371 in Powis Castle, Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, Wales
    • Married: AFT 19 JUN 1399 in 2nd husband 1st wife 9 10
    Children
    1. Has Children Joan CHERLETON b: ABT 1400 in Powis Castle, Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, Wales
    2. Has Children Joyce CHERLETON b: ABT 1403 in Powis Castle, Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, Wales

    Sources:
    1. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 30-8, 31-8, 94-9, 161-19
    2. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: II:494
    3. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 47d-33
    4. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: VIII:448-50
    5. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: III:161
    6. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 30-8, 161-19
      Text: 30=Oct 1405, 161=23 Oct 1405
    7. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 47d-33
      Text: c1388
    8. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: VIII:448-50
      Text: c1388
    9. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 30-8, 47d-33
      Text: 30=1399, 47d=June 1399
    10. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: VIII:448-50
      Text: Jun 1399
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