The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I21207
  • Name: Ralph de MOHAUT , Lord of Hawarden 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: Eustace de /Arden/, Lord of Hawarden
  • Birth: ABT 1155 in Castle Montalt, Hawarden, Flintshire, Wales
  • Death: ABT 1200 2
  • Note:
    Eustace de Arden, Baron of Hawarden, hereditary seneschal of Cheshire. [Magna Charta Sureties]

    NOTE: SGM has found no proof of Eustace's existence (other than Eustace d'Arderne grandfather of Walkelin d'Arderne, Agnes de Orreby's husband, which may account for some of the confusion). CP IX:11 note (g) does not list Eustace as a son of Robert & Leucha. I think it most likely that MCS's Eustace would be the eldest son, which according to CP was Ralph. Therefore I am assuming that Ralph de Mohaut, Lord of Hawarden, and Eustace de Arden are the same people? According to SGM (post by Mardi Carter, 2 Apr 2005), there was a Roger who sued Phillip de Orreby in 1227 claiming that Ralph was his ancestor. This Ralph could be Ralph's son Roger who d. 1260 (assuming that Eustace is really Ralph).

    NOTE: SGM found an error in CP IX:11-13's assumption that the Roger (d. 1260) who married Cecily d'Aubigny was a son of Roger & Nichole. Therefore I am splitting the differences between MCS, SGM, and CP by making Roger the son of Ralph (AKA Eustace).

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    Ralph de Mohaut, son and heir [of Robert de Mohaut & Leucha]. Between 1177 and 1182 he gave to the abbey of St. Werburgh, Chester, the church of Neston for the souls of Robert his father and Leucha (living) his mother. It was part of her dower, and she consented, as did also Ralph's brother William. His name appears on the Pipe Rolls of 1179, 1180, and 1189. He attested a charter of Earl Randulph III between 1190 and 1207, perhaps as late as 1200. He m. Maud, whose parentage is not known. He d. probably circa 1200. [Complete Peerage IX:11]




    Father: Robert de MOHAUT , Constable of Chester b: BEF 1120 in Mold Castle, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
    Mother: Leucha FITZNEEL b: ABT 1130 in Halton, Cheshire, England

    Marriage 1 Maud b: ABT 1170
      Children
      1. Has Children Roger de MOHAUT , of Castle Rising b: ABT 1200 in Castle Montalt, Hawarden, Flintshire, Wales

      Sources:
      1. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
        Page: 129-2/3
        Text: Eustace de Arden
      2. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
        Page: IX:11
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