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  • ID: I20236
  • Name: Orm FitzRoger de ASSHETON 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: Orm FitzRoger de /Ashton/
  • Birth: ABT 1145 in Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
  • Death: AFT 1201 3 2
  • Note:

    Originally ASHTON appears to have been rated as three plough-lands, of which two became part of the estates of the lords of Penwortham, and the third, together with the advowson of the church, was attached to the barony of Manchester. The former portion, Ashton proper, is probably the two plough-lands held by one Warin in 1086, by grant of Roger of Poitou. It also was granted to the lords of Manchester, and in 1212 Robert Grelley held the two plough-lands and should render 20s. or a goshawk; but Albert Grelley, the father, or perhaps the grandfather of Robert, had given to Roger son of Orm 'the whole land of Ashton, with all its appurtenances,' with other lands, just as the said Roger had held them of Albert's father, at the rent of 20s. or a hawk. This Roger was the ancestor of the Kirkbys of Kirkby Ireleth, and the lordship of Ashton descended in this family till the 17thcentury.

    In the reign of Henry II William de Kirkby granted Ashton to one Orm, probably a relative, who thus became the immediate lord, and whose descendants assumed the local surname. A later Orm de Ashton, who is described as the 'son of Roger' in a fine of 1195, was living in 1201. He was succeeded by his son Thomas, and Robert de Ashton occurs in 1254, but the descent in the absence of evidence cannot be made out quite clearly. In 1274 Thomas de Ashton defended his title to the manor of Ashton against John de Kirkby, and in 1284 an agreement was made between them by which Thomas's right was acknowledged, a rent of 1d. being due from him. It is perhaps the same Thomas who occurs a number of times to 1307, while in 1320 John de Ashton held the manor of the lord of Manchester, rendering 20s. at the four terms and a hawk or 40s. at Michaelmas. In 1335 he procured from the king a grant of free warren in the demesne lands of Ashton. John de Ashton, apparently the same person, died about 1360, leaving a son and heir under age, his wardship and marriage being claimed by Sir John de Kirkby. The claim no doubt succeeded, for Margaret the widow of John de Ashton sought dower against Kirkby in 1366, and in 1375 John son of John de Ashton called upon him to give account of the issues of his lands in Ashton.

    John de Ashton is said to have distinguished himself at the siege of Noyon in 1370, and represented the county in Parliament in 1382, 1388, and1390. He was apparently father of Sir John de Ashton his successor, prominent in the French wars of Henry V, and Seneschal of Bayeux in 1416. In 1413 Sir John obtained a release of the service due from the manor. After reciting that he held it of Sir Richard de Kirkby by the rent of 1d., and that Sir Richard held it of Thomas La Warre, lord of Manchester, by the rent of 22s. and a hawk or 40s., which services Sir John de Ashton had to render on behalf of Sir Richard, the feoffees of Thomas La Warre granted that Sir John, Sir Richard, and their heirs should be free from the said service after the death of Thomas. This Sir John died in 1428, holding the manor of Ashton of Robert de Ogle (in right of his wife Isabel, granddaughter and heir of Sir Richard Kirkby), and other manors and lands. Thomas, his son and heir, then twenty-five years of age, came to be known as 'the Alchemist'....
    From: 'The parish of Ashton-under-Lyne: Introduction, manor & boroughs', A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 4 (1911), pp. 338-347. URL: lyne Date accessed: 21 June 2012.

    Father: Roger de KIRKBY , Ashton & Wrightington b: ABT 1123 in Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England

    Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
      1. Has Children Thomas de ASSHETON , Sir b: ABT 1160 in Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
      2. Has Children Hugh de CROFT , of Southworth b: ABT 1170 in Southworth with Croft, Warrington, Lancashire, England

      1. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
        Page: 605
      2. Title: VCH - Leicestershire,
        Media: Book
        Page: IV:338-47
      3. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
        Page: 605
        Text: living between 1195 and 1201
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