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  • ID: I19273
  • Name: John STEWART , 1st Earl of Angus, Sir 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: 14th\1st Earl of /Angus/, John Stewart
  • Birth: ABT 1294 in Boncle, Berwickshire, Scotland
  • Death: 9 DEC 1331 in Angusshire, Scotland 1 2
  • Note:
    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Angus, so created 1329, probably because of his marriage (papal dispensation 24 Oct 1328) to Margaret, Lady of Abernethy (living 1370), elder daughter and coheir of Alexander Abernethy of that Ilk, and died 9 Dec 1331. [Burke's Peerage]

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    EARLDOM of ANGUS (SCT) (XIV, 1) 1329

    John Stewart, of Bonkyl, co. Berwick, son and heir of Sir Alexander Stewart, of the same, succeeded his father 1319, and is styled in a charter dated 15 Jun 1329, Earl of Angus. He was knighted 24 Nov 1331, at the coronation of David II. He m. by Papal dispensation dated 24 Oct 1328 (being within the fourth degree of consanguinity), Margaret, 1st daughter of Sir Alexander Abernathy. He d. 9 Dec 1331. His widow was living 1370. [Complete Peerage I:153]

    Note: BP has John as 1st Earl because they restart their numbering with every creation of the title. CP has John as 14th Earl because (I think, as there is no other explanation) they count the three male descendants of Gilbert de Umfreville, 3rd (English)/10th (Scottish) Earl of Angus, as potential Earls of Angus. But since the Scots gave the Earldom to John in 1329, well before Gilbert, 3rd/10th Earl died in 1381, THERE IS NO WAY THAT THE SCOTS RECOGNIZED THE ENGLISH AS EARLS OF ANGUS during this period (Robert the Bruce was crowned in 1306, and must have gotten around to reseating the various earls before his death in 1429). Therefore I think CP is plain foolish; and should be making John Stewart the 11th Earl of Angus (SCT) after Gilbert's brief tenure (1325-1329) as the 10th Earl (SCT), even though he may have held a worthless English title as 3rd Earl of Angus until his death. If CP thinks that Gilbert's son (Thomas, d. 1387), grandson (Thomas, d. 1391), and great grandson (Gilbert, d. 1421) inherited a title, then it would be the worthless English title making them the 4th, 5th, and 6th Earl of whatever part of Angus lies in England. CP doesn't even address the problem of having the 14th Earl die well before the 11th Earl, and before the 12th & 13th Earl were even born. Oh well.




    Father: Alexander STEWART , Lord of Bonkyl, Sir b: ABT 1270 in Boncle, Berwickshire, Scotland
    Mother: Jean FITZJAMES b: ABT 1270 in Scotland

    Marriage 1 Margaret Co-Heiress of ABERNETHY b: ABT 1296 in Abernethy, Fifeshire, Scotland
    • Married: 24 OCT 1328 in Dispensation date 1 2
    Children
    1. Has Children Thomas STEWART , 2nd Earl of Angus b: ABT 1330 in Angusshire, Scotland

    Sources:
    1. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
      Page: 1985
    2. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: I:153
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