The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I17880
  • Name: Henry SCOTT
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1573 in Bradfield St George, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
  • Birth: BEF 1 NOV 1560 in Bradfield St George, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
  • Death: 24 DEC 1624 in Rattlesden, Stow, Suffolk, England
  • Note:
    I have no sources yet (that I have personally read) on the ancestry of Henry. Many people (as I had at one time) have him as son of Edmund Scott & Joan, with a birthdate of Bef. 1 Nov 1560, while some (as I now do) have Henry as son of William Scott & Mary Howard. I believe that there was a Henry, born Bef. 1 Nov 1560, son of Edmund & Joan; but that birthdate is not the date for Henry son of William & Mary; a date of c 1573 (which a few others have) is more appropriate for such a son.

    In support of this assumption is the name Henry (after Mary Howard's grandfather Henry Cary, and his father Henry VIII), also the fact that Henry Cary was born in Hengrave, which is near Bury St Edmonds as is Bradfield St George, which puts the Cary family in close proximity to Henry Scott's family. There is support for this ancestry for Henry Scott from the book "Genesis of the White Family" by E. S. White (see e-mail by Eileen Suggs below).

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    Eileen Suggs, who has researched the Carey line & pointed out this lineage to me, sent the following in an e-mail:

    You almost gave me a heart attack this morning. I saw the pedigree you have for Henry Scott b. 1560 m. to Martha Whatlock and my heart stopped. What you have differs drastically from what I have and to change to yours would mean wiping out thousands literally of mine. I did have documentation on mine ("Genesis of the White Family" by E. S. White Published by Theirnan-Draft Publ., 1920, pg. 175.) I got this at the Library of Congress back in 1992. Spent a month there doing research. Well, since E. S. White could be another nobody like me, I thought he could be wrong and you are correct so I went to work doing further research. Found it!!! Two sources.

    Broderbund Vol # Ed. 1 Tree #3268, Tree 3334, and WFT Vol 22 ed. 1, tree #1426. If you don't have ready access to these sources I will Send Gedcom.

    Well I will send gedcom if you agree I might be correct.

    Eileen

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    Also Eileen sent the following e-mail with more information;

    Originally I had two wives for William Scott. Mary - No last name, and Mary Howard. Henry b. abt 1573 being the son of Mary Howard along with George b. 1583 and Nicholas b 1776. When looking for documentation I found only that all nine of Williams Children were attributed to Mary Howard with a marriage date of 1559. Henry's date of birth as 1 nov 1560. It then made it impossibe for Mary Howard to have been the daughter of Charles Howard and Katheryn Carey. Which made me heartsick. So I disconnected them and have been waiting for you to tell me who her parents were. I had Mary born at a later date than Broderbund or WFT as well. but not as late as 1563. I am sure we can find that historically that date is incorrect. It was King Henry who arranged for Katheryn to marry into the Howard family for wealth (Yes she was his illigitmate grandaughter.) and he died in 1547.




    Father: William SCOTT , Sir b: ABT 1550 in Bradfield St George, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    Mother: Mary HOWARD b: ABT 1558 in Hunsdon, Ware, Hertfordshire, England

    Marriage 1 Martha WHATLOCK b: 18 JUL 1568 in Rattlesden, Stow, Suffolk, England
    • Married: 25 JUL 1594 in Rattlesden, Stow, Suffolk, England
    Children
    1. Has Children Ursula SCOTT b: 14 FEB 1595/96 in Rattlesden, Stow, Suffolk, England
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