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  • ID: I17658
  • Name: John 2nd Baron d' ARUNDEL , Sir 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: John /FitzAlan/, 2nd Baron of Arundel, Sir
  • Birth: 30 NOV 1364 in Lytchett Matravers, Poole, Dorset, England 4 3
  • Death: 14 AUG 1390 in Ditton Manor, Stoke Pogis, Buckinghamshire, England 4 3
  • Burial: Missenden Abbey, Buckinghamshire, England
  • Note:
    John; never called to Parliament (perhaps because his mother was still living; if so it would strengthen the supposition that his father was called to Parliament as a peer in right of his wife; (see below against 17th/10th Earl where the Barony of Arundel and Mautravers are amalgamated); born 30 Nov 1364; served against Scots by land 1383 and at sea (against the French?) 1388; married by 1387 Elizabeth, daughter of 1st Lord (Baron) le Despenser, and died 14 Aug 1390. [Burke's Peerage]

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    Sir John d'Arundel (121-8), Lord Arundel. [Magna Charta Sureties, Line 14-9]

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    BARONY of ARUNDEL (II) 1379

    JOHN D'ARUNDEL, son and heir, born 30 November 1364. He was never summoned to Parliament He was with the army in Scotland in 1383, and with the English Fleet in 1388. He married, before 1385, Elizabeth, daughter of Edward (DESPENSER), LORD Le DESPENSER, by Elizabeth, daughter and heir of Bartholomew (BURGHERSH), LORD BURGHERSH. He died 14 August 1390, and was buried in Missenden Abbey. On 15 July 1406 he is referred to as John Darundell Chivaler, and his son as John Darundell Esquire. His widow married William (LA ZOUCHE), LORD ZOUCHE OF HARYNGWORTH, who died 13 May 1396. She died 10 or 11 April 1408. Will, desiring to be buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, dated 4 Apri 1408. [Complete Peerage I:260, XIV:40, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    Note: CP assumes that the reason he was not called was because this Barony, even though it was not named so, was really the Mautravers/Maltravers Barony in right of his mother Eleanor; and John died before she did and therefore was not summoned to Parliament. However since the title was Arundel, and not Mautravers, he can legally be assumed to be the 2nd of that title.




    Father: John 1st Baron d' ARUNDEL , Sir b: AFT 1347 in Betchworth, Surrey, England
    Mother: Eleanor MALTRAVERS , Baroness Mautravers b: ABT 1345 in Woolcombe Matravers, Dorchester, Dorset, England

    Marriage 1 Elizabeth le DESPENSER b: ABT 1367 in Essendine, Rutland, England
    • Married: BEF 1385 in 1st husband 5
    • Married: BEF 1387 in 1st husband 6 3
    Children
    1. Has Children John FITZALAN , 13th Earl of Arundel, KB, Sir b: 1 AUG 1385 in Ditton Manor, Stoke Pogis, Buckinghamshire, England
    2. Has Children Thomas FITZALAN , of Betchworth, Sir b: BEF 1390 in Arundel, Sussex, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 121-8, 14-9
    2. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
      Page: 2098, 3102
    3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: I:260
    4. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 121-8
    5. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: I:260, as corrected by XIV:40
    6. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
      Page: 2098
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