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  • ID: I17414
  • Name: William VII 3rd Baron de SAY , Sir 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 17 JUN 1340 in Birling, Malling, Kent, England 3 2
  • Death: BEF 7 AUG 1375 in Sawbrideworth, Hertfordshire, England 1 2
  • Note:
    William de Say, 3rd Lord (Baron) Say; born 17 June 1314; knighted Oct 1361; married Beatrice de Brewes, daughter of 1st and last (no descendant of his was summoned to Parliament in this so-called peerage) Lord (Baron) Braouse/Brewes/Brewose, and died by 7 Aug 1375. [Burke's Peerage]

    Note: William was not born 1314, when his father was 9 years old. CP has the correct year.

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    BARONY OF SAY (III)

    WILLIAM (DE SAY), LORD SAY, son and heir, born 17 June 1340 at Birling, and baptised there. On 4 July 1361 he was to have his lands, having proved his age and done homage. In October 1361 he had been knighted. He was sum. to every Parliament from 1362 to 1373. He married Beatrice, daughter and in her issue heir of Thomas (DE BREWES), LORD BREWES) by Beatrice, widow of Edward, son and heir apparent of Thomas (DE BROTHERTON), EARL OF NORFOLK, and daughter of Roger (DE MORTIMER), EARL OF MARCH. He died before 7 August 1375. [Complete Peerage XI:477, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]




    Father: Geoffrey IV 2nd Baron de SAY , Sir b: BEF 4 JUN 1305 in Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, England
    Mother: Maud de BEAUCHAMP b: ABT 1310 in Warwick Castle, Warwickshire, England

    Marriage 1 Beatrice de BRAOSE b: ABT 1344 in Manningford Bruce, Pewsey, Wiltshire, England
      Children
      1. Has No Children Elizabeth 5th Baroness de SAY b: ABT 1370 in Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, England
      2. Has No Children John 4th Baron de SAY b: ABT 1373 in Sawbrideworth, Hertfordshire, England

      Sources:
      1. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
        Page: 2555
      2. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
        Page: XI:477
      3. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
        Page: 2555
        Text: 17 June 1314 (father was 9 years old), CP has 1340
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