The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I17021
  • Name: Jean de Morlanwelz Sire de ROEULX 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: Jean de /Mons/
  • Name: Jean de MOLANWELZ , Sire de Roeulx 3
  • Birth: ABT 1085 in Morlanwelz-Mariemont, Hainault, Belgium
  • Death: Deceased in Roeulx, Walloon Region, Belgium
  • Note:
    Leo van de Pas doesn't give an ancestry for Jean, who other people on World Connect name Jean de Mons. Eileen Suggs, World Connect db=emsuggs, e-mailed me that the dates that I have approximated for Jean would not allow him to be the son of Gossuin II by Ida van Ath, who she had as the parents of Jean de Mons. I responded with the following e-mail, and am adding him tentatively as son of Gossuin I:

    Leo doesn't give an ancestry for him. But I would think that the dates indicate Jean would be son of Gossuin I, plus the fact that Marie & Eustache I de Hainault, Sire de Roeulx would be too closely related if Marie's father Jean were son of Gossuin II by Ida van Ath. Perhaps the ancestry you were following figured that Eustace was related to the Aths (through Marie's paternal grandmother), but Leo says through Eustace's mother Beatrix van Ath.

    Perhaps Eustace was also related, although not a blood relationship, through his Marie's father Jean's brother Gossuin II.




    Father: Gossuin I Seigneur de MONS b: ABT 1050 in Mons, Hainault, Belgium
    Mother: Ermengarde de CHAUMONT b: ABT 1055 in Chaumont, France

    Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
      Children
      1. Has Children Marie de Morlanwelz Dame de ROEULX b: ABT 1115 in Morlanwelz-Mariemont, Hainault, Belgium

      Sources:
      1. Title: Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org
        Page: Jean de Morlanwelz, Sire de Roeulx
        Text: no ancestry given
      2. Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
        Page: 191
        Text: Jean de Mons, no ancestry given
      3. Title: Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org
        Page: Jean de Molanwelz, Sire de Roeulx
        Text: no ancestry given
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