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  • ID: I16823
  • Name: William de COURCY , of Newenham, Sir 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: William de /Curcy/
  • Birth: ABT 1107 in Nuneham Courtenay, Abingdon, Oxfordshire, England
  • Death: BEF 1162 3
  • Note:
    I have no published source that gives the ancestry of William Courcy. The sources that I have indicate how little is known of him. Brent Ruesch, World Connect db=bruesch639, has him as son of Robert and Rohese, who are documented in Turton. Brent states he is of Nuneham Courtnay, which fits with what the chart on CP VIII:48/9 states: that Richard de Courcy was of Newenham, Oxon (Now known as Nuneham Courtenay).

    This line (as Brent Ruesch has it) is contained in the LDS ancestral files. It may be true, however Robert and William did not hold Nuneham Courtenay. According to the Victoria County History (VCH) of Oxford. Newenham, which is the same as Nuneham Courtenay, was held in dower by Gundrada de Warenne, wife of William III de Courcy, d. 1176; so presumably it descended from Richard to William I, then William II, then William III. It then descended to their daughter:

    1. Alice de Courcy, who m. Warin FitzGerold,
    2. Margaret m. Baldwin de Reviers, d. 1216.
    3. Baldwin de Reviers, Earl of Devon, d. 1244/5; m. Amice de Clare
    4. Baldwin de Reviers, Earl of Devon, dsps. 1262 & his sister Isabel, dsps. 1293 (husb. was William de Forz).
    5. Hugh de Courtenay, Earl of Devon, d. 1340, inherited through a court case from Isabel, his relationship being that his great grandfather Robert de Courtenay m. Mary de Reviers (Vernon), sister of Baldwin de Reviers, d. 1216. Hugh was also descended in the prior generation with his gg-grandfather Renaud/Reginald m. Hawise de Courcy, daughter of this marriage.

    Which brings up the possibility that this William is really the same as William II de Courcy who m. (1) Avice le Meschin and (2) Maud d'Avranches. This is still a real possibility, but I am going with Brent Ruesch/LDS.

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    William de Crucy (or Geoffrey de Crunes (Craon)) [m.] Maud d'Avranches, the latter being heiress of Baldwin Fitz Gilbert's family, which had held the honour of Okehampton and the Shrievalty of Devon 1080-1142. [Burke's Peerage]

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    William de Courcy [m.] Maud d'Avranches, lady of Oakhampton, and of du Sap in Normandy, daughter and heir of Robert d'Avranches, lord of Oakhampton, co. Devon. [Ancestral Roots]

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    William de Curcy; dead 1162. (a) So called by his grandson, Robert de Courtenay, in a suit, Mich. 6-7 Henry III. In another suit, Hilary 6 Henry III, his stepdaughter, Maud de Courtenay, had called him Geoffrey de Crunes (Craon). [Complete Peerage IV:317 chart + footnote (a)]




    Father: Robert de COURCY , of Newenham b: ABT 1070 in Nuneham Courtenay, Abingdon, Oxfordshire, England
    Mother: Rohese de GRANDMESNIL b: ABT 1072 in Leicester Castle, Leicestershire, England

    Marriage 1 Maud d' AVRANCHES , Heiress of Okehampton b: ABT 1115 in Okehampton, Devon, England
    • Married: BEF 1149 in 1st husband
    Children
    1. Has Children Hawise de COURCY , Heiress of Okehampton b: ABT 1150 in Okehampton, Devon, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
      Page: 833
    2. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 138-25
    3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: IV:317 chart
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