The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I16713
  • Name: Nicholas KIRKHAM , of Blagdon 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 4 MAR 1433/34 in Blagdon, Paignton, Devon, England
  • Death: 15 MAR 1515/16
  • Note:
    AR7 stated that Nicholas was the father of Thomasina (wife of John Chudleigh, b. c1414), but Todd Farmerie, in a post to SGM stated that it was in error.

    The following is a post to SGM, 28 Dec 1998, by Todd Farmerie:

    A similar pattern is that of a widow who "reverts" to the name of a previous, and more prestigious, husband. Thus, Thomasine de Merton married Nicholas de Kirkham, and then married John de Chudlegh. While married to Chudlegh, she was styled Thomasine de Chudlegh, but following John's death, she reverted to Thomasine de Kirkham. This so confused the earlier genealogists that she appears no less than three different times in Vivians pedigree of the Chudleghs.

    If I recall correctly, a similar case is found in Joan, mother of William Mallory, whose will calls her Joan Basset even though she had later married Mallory.

    taf

    NOTE: She must have been Nicholas's 2nd wife, who survived him and married a John Chudleigh. However the John Chudleigh who she supposedly married was stated by AR7 to be b. c1414, d. >1456. If Thomasine m. him, then he would have had to have lived long after 1456, and Nicholas would have had to have died much earlier than the 1516 date given for him. Thus I think that Thomasine's 2nd husband was a different John Chudleigh, or he lived and died a generation later, or there was another Nicholas Kirkham who lived a generation earlier.




    Father: Robert KIRKHAM , of Blagdon b: ABT 1406 in Blagdon, Paignton, Devon, England
    Mother: Elizabeth SCOBHILL b: ABT 1408 in Scobhill, Lynton, Devon, England

    Marriage 1 Jane WYKES b: ABT 1445 in North Wyke, South Tawton, Devon, England
    • Married: in 1st wife

    Marriage 2 Thomasine de MERTON b: ABT 1450 in Merton, Torrington, Devon, England
    • Married: BEF 1515 in 1st husband 2nd wife

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 217-37a
      Text: father of Thomasina
    2. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Todd Farmerie, 28 Dec 1998
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