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  • ID: I16686
  • Name: Amice\Amicia de CAMVILLE 1
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: ABT 1266 in Clifton Campville, Staffordshire, England
  • Death: FEB 1338/39
  • Note:
    The following is a post to SGM, 13 Dec 2006, by Douglas Richardson:

    Dear Newsgroup ~

    The authoritative Complete Peerage, 8 (1932): 535-537 (sub Martin) includes a good account of the life of Sir William Martin, 1st Lord Martin, who died in 1324. Regarding his marital history, the following information is provided:

    "He married before January 1281/2 Eleanor, widow of Sir John de Mohun, and daughter of Sir Reynold FitzPiers."

    That Eleanor Fitz Reynold was the mother of all of Sir William Martin's children seems clear. It appears, however, that Sir William Martin contracted yet another hitherto unnoticed second marriage. Research indicates that Sir William Martin married (2nd) after 16 August 1305 Amice de Camville, widow of Henry de Pomeroy, of Berry Pomeroy, Devon, and daughter of Geoffrey de Camville, Knt., 1st Lord Camville, by an unidentified first wife.

    Evidence of Sir William Martin's marriage to Amice de Camville is provided by the published register of John de Grandison, Bishop of Exeter. This register includes a transcript of the will of Lord Martin's widow, Amice. The register specifically identifies Amice as "Lady Amice de la Pomeroy, widow of the late nobleman, Sir William Martin, Knight and Baron" [Domina Amicia de la Pomeroy, relicta quondam Nobilis Viri, Domini Willelmi Martyn, Militis et Baronis]. The brief will is dated 5 Feb. 1338/9, and proved 16 Feb. 1339/40. Lady Amice requests burial at Berry Pomeroy, Devon "by the sepulchre of her lord" [i.e., her first husband, Henry de Pomeroy]. She names her daughter, Isabel, and James de Cockington as her co-executors. Isabel de Pomeroy, daughter of Amice, is named in the following probate [Reference: Rev. F.C. Hingeston-Randolph, The Registers of John de Grandisson, Bishop of Exeter 2 (1897): 921-923].

    I find that Amice is specifically called daughter of Sir Geoffrey de Camville in a confirmation charter dated 1319 issued by her son and heir, Henry de Pomeroy [Reference: Steven Hobbs, ed., Cartulary of Forde Abbey (Somerset Rec. Soc. 85) (1998): 97]. Amice's father, Sir Geoffrey de Camville, however, must have had three marriages, not two, as stated in Complete Peerage, 3 (1913): 3-4 (sub Canville). Amice can not be the daughter of Sir Geoffrey de Camville's early marriage to Maud de Bryan, as records indicate that Maud de Bryan was the mother by a previous marriage to Sir William Martin, 1st Lord Martin, who was Amice's second husband. Thus, Amice de Camville must be the child of Sir Geoffrey de Camville by a hitherto unknown first wife; Maud de Bryan would necessarily become Sir Geoffrey de Camville's second wife.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah




    Father: Geoffrey 1st Baron de CAMVILLE , Sir b: BEF 1239 in Clifton Campville, Staffordshire, England
    Mother: Unknown First WIFE b: ABT 1240

    Marriage 1 Henry VI de POMEROY , of Berry Pomeroy, Sir b: 23 APR 1265 in Berry Pomeroy, Totnes, Devon, England
    • Married: in 1st husband 1
    Children
    1. Has Children Henry VII de POMEROY , of Berry Pomeroy, Sir b: 4 SEP 1291 in Berry Pomeroy, Totnes, Devon, England

    Marriage 2 William 1st Baron MARTIN , of Combe Martin, Sir b: ABT 1257 in Combe Martin, Barnstaple, Devon, England
    • Married: AFT 16 AUG 1305 in 2nd husband 2nd wife 1

    Sources:
    1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Douglas Richardson, 13 Dec 2006
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