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  • ID: I15333
  • Name: John de WHALESBURGH & Lancarfe, Sir 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: John de /Whalesborough/, Sir
  • Name: John de WALESBREU , Sir 4
  • Birth: BET 1314 AND 1316 in Lancarfe, Cornwall, England 4
  • Death: 26 APR 1362 in Whalesborough, St. Mawnan, Cornwall, England 4
  • Note:
    Following is a post to SGM, by Joe, 7 Jun 1210:

    Sir JOHN De WALESBREU. [1] Born 1314-1316 as he was still a minor when John, Earl of Cornwall presented on 2 May 1335 to St. Mawgan-in-Kerrier, by reason of him having custody of the lands of John de Walesbreu, a minor [2], but in the 1337 Caption of Seisin of the Duchy of Cornwall, John de Walesbreu was holding 3 knights fees in an illegible location and 1 fee in Hutno, for which he is required to do castle guard and all other services in proportion to his holdings. [3] Johannes de Whalisbreu, miles, was Knight of the Shire for Cornwall at the Parliaments of 7 June 1344 and 23 Sep 1353. [4] In 1346, Johanne de Walesbreu held Laimaylwen and Lancarf "which his father William formerly held" (quod Willelmus pater suus prius tenuit). [5] His mother presented her nephew John De Bodrugan to St. Mawnan on 23 Feb. 1347/48 as 'Joan relict of William De Whalesbreu' and again to St. Mawnan on 6 Nov. 1348 and 1 Mar. 1361/62. [6, 7] He presented to the church of St. Perran-Uthno on 17 July 1348, 19 June 1349, 10 Jan 1361/2 and to St. Mawnan-in-Kerrier 6 Aug 1349, 3 Apr 1350, 7 Dec 1361, and 4 Mar 1361/2; presentations on 11 Oct. 1372 and 22 June 1381 would have been by his son John [8,9].

    Sir John de Walesbreu was married to Joan De Bodrugan, daughter of Sir Otes De Bodrugan by Margaret Chambernoun. [10] Family connections presented as rectors to various churches include her nephew John De Bodrugan, a Sir Reginald Beauchamp, a Roger Beauchamp and a Sir Thomas De Carmynou. Joan died 5 June 1349. [11]

    Sir John De Whalesbreu died 26 April 1362. [12] Tristram Risdon says that John De Whalesburgh obitt 1362 used the arms ‘Gules three bendlets azure, on a bordure sable nine bezants’ (same as the William who died 1328). [13]


    i. JOHN WHALESBOROUGH. See following.
    ii. MARGARET WHALESBOROUGH m. Sir John II De Beauchamp of Ryme Intrinseca, co. Dorset. [14] He died 8 April 1349. [15] It should be noted that the Cal. of IPM incorrectly combines his IPM with his son John who died less than a month later on 4 May 1349. [16] In the Challons pedigree she is called Margaret daughter of John Whalesborough. [17] By dates she would have to be the daughter of this John Whalesborough, and not of John his son who wasn’t born until 1346; this is also apparently further confirmed by unpublished manuscripts at the British Library in London. [18] As noted, the oldest son of John De Beauchamp was his son John who died before the IPM of the father could be taken; the next son was Thomas who was found to be the heir in the IPMs of both John the father, and of John his son. Richard Branscombe was granted the wardship of the lands of
    Thomas De Beauchamp on 10 April 1350. Margaret remarried this Richard Branscombe by 23 October 1353 when the wardship was confirmed to Richard de Brankescombe, and Margaret his wife. [19] That this is the same Margaret is confirmed by her assignment of dower on 10 January 1355 (this writ refers to a previous
    king’s writ on 20 November 1353).




    Father: William de WHALESBOROUGH , Sir b: ABT 1288 in Whalesborough, St. Mawnan, Cornwall, England
    Mother: Joan CARMINOW b: ABT 1288 in Trelowith Manor, St Mewan, Cornwall, England

    Marriage 1 Joan BODRUGAN b: ABT 1310 in Bodrugan Manor, St Goran, Cornwall, England
    • Married: BEF 1326 in 2nd wife
    Children
    1. Has Children Margaret WHALESBURGH b: ABT 1327 in Ryme Intrinseca, Sherborne, Dorset, England
    2. Has Children John de WHALESBURGH , & Udnou & Lancarfe, Sir b: 6 JUL 1346 in Perranuthnoe, Penzance, Cornwall, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 246e-32
    2. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: IV:97
    3. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Pat Patterson, 23 Feb 2001
      Text: John Walesborough
    4. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Joe, 7 Jun 2010
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