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  • ID: I14649
  • Name: Hugh de GIFFARD , of Boyton, Sir 1 2 3 4
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1185 in Boyton, Warminster, Wiltshire, England
  • Death: 1246 3
  • Death: 1256
  • Note:
    The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 2 Jun 2002, by Ivor West:

    From: Ivor West (inw AT freeuk.com)
    Subject: Re: Margaret de Berkeley, wife of John de Neville and John Giffard
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 2002-06-02 08:59:30 PST

    Chris Phillips wrote,

    > Can anyone help in fitting together these Giffards?

    Hello Chris,

    I think I can help you with some of the names which appear in bishop Godfrey's will.

    Hugh Giffard and Sibyl de Cormeilles appear to have had eight children, four of whom were ecclesiastics - archbishop Walter, bishop Godfrey, abbess Mabel of Shaftesbury and the rev. Hugh. Another son, Alexander, was the crusader who died at Mansoura in 1250. The other children were:

    William Giffard of Barrow, Suffolk, who married Katherine Passelewe Domine Katerine, uxori domini W. fratris mei ) and had John Giffard of Weston sub Edge who would most probably be Johanni Giffard, nepoti meo.

    Maud, who married, first, a de Freville and had two sons, who aren't mentioned as nepotes in the will, so may have already died. Alexander de Freville (Alexandro de Frivill ) could have been the issue of one of them, which would place him born c1275 and would make his wife, Joan ( domine Johanni, uxori domini Alexandri Friville ) probably Joan de Cromwell. Maud married, second, William de Ebroicis and had another son ( magistro J. de Ebroyc', nepoti meo );

    Alice, the last child, may have married de Aucher and produced Margarete Aucher, nepti mee, de Schaftebure; domino Henrico Aucher, militi, nepoti meo; and Ricardo Aucher, nepos meus.

    Margaret de Neville, nepti mee, seems to fit into the general category of nepotes shown in the will, as grand-children of Hugh Giffard of Boyton, whether she was the daughter of William or of one of his sisters. This suggests that she first married John de Neville and that he was a nephew by marriage of archbishop Walter.

    The Boyton line and the Brimsfield line of John Giffard, 1231 - 1299, come together at the common ancestor, Elias II of Brimsfield. Elias III and Walter of Boyton, father of Hugh, were brothers. This makes John Giffard of Brimsfield second cousin to bishop Godfrey of Boyton and to Willam, the suggested father of Margaret. Because of the longer generations in the Brimsfield line, John and Margaret would seem to be related as alleged, in the third and fourth degrees ( John - Elias IV - Elias III - Elias II ), ( Margaret - William - Hugh - Walter - Elias II ).




    Father: Walter GIFFARD , Lord of Boyton b: ABT 1152 in Boyton, Warminster, Wiltshire, England

    Marriage 1 Sibyl de CORMEILLES , Heir of Tarrington b: ABT 1193 in Tarrington, Ledbury, Herefordshire, England
    • Married: BEF 18 MAR 1216/17 in 2nd husband 5 6
    Children
    1. Has Children Maud (Matilda) de GIFFARD b: ABT 1218 in Boyton, Warminster, Wiltshire, England
    2. Has Children Maud GIFFARD b: ABT 1224 in Boyton, Warminster, Wiltshire, England
    3. Has Children Alice GIFFARD b: ABT 1230 in Boyton, Warminster, Wiltshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Douglas Richardson, 2 Nov 2003
    2. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: IV:302
      Text: father of Maud
    3. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: John Ravilious, 1 Feb 2004
    4. Title: Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml
      Page: IX:483, Neville or Nevill of Essex
      Text: son of Walter Giffard, son of Ellis II Giffard.
    5. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Douglas Richardson, 31 Oct 2003
    6. Title: Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml
      Page: IX:483, Neville or Nevill of Essex
      Text: no date, 2nd husband
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