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  • ID: I13550
  • Name: John 5th Baron LOVEL , of Titchmarsh, KG, Sir 1 2 3 4 5
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: BEF 1342 in Titchmarsh, Thrapston, Northamptonshire, England 6
  • Death: 10 SEP 1408 in Wardour, Tisbury, Wiltshire, England 1 2 3 4
  • Burial: St. John's Hospital, Brackley, Northamptonshire, England
  • Note:
    5th Lord (Baron) Lovel (of Titchmarsh) (d. 10 Sep 1408). [Burke's Peerage]

    According to The Complete Peerage there was another John Lovel, 4th Baron, elder brother of this John, who was 6 when the father died and he took the title, died unmarried without issue when this John was 17. I don't know what this John's original name was. I don't think it was John--that would be too many Johns. His father had been dead for 11 years when the 1st John died, so I don't know who changed his name. Maybe they didn't want to pay for new stationary & calling cards.

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    BARONY OF HOLAND (III)

    BARONY OF LOVEL (V)

    JOHN (LOVEL), LORD LOVEL, brother and heir, said to be aged 17 at his brother's death. He was, however, of full age by 8 June 1363, when the King took his fealty. In April 1364, as John Lovel of co. Oxford, he was on his way to Brittany to serve the King. He was a knight in 1367, and in the spring of 1368 was setting out abroad with Lionel, Duke of Clarence, in the King's service. In June 1371, probably in anticipation of his marriage with Maud de Holand, a great heiress, he granted his manors, &c., to Robert de Holand and other feoffees. Livery of Maud's inheritance was given 3 May 1373, there being already issue of the marriage. He was on service in France in 1374 in the retinue of Edmund (Mortimer), Earl of March, and, at the end of the year, under the Duke of Brittany. He was summoned to Parliament from 28 December 1375 to 26 August 1407. He did homage at the Coronation of Richard II in 1377. As banneret he had pardon in 1379, and as a knight he went to Ireland on the King's service in 1380. In 1380 he was styled "John Lovel, kt., lord of Tychemerssh and Holand." In 1381 he received a commission to issue a proclamation against rebels in Oxfordshire. He was keeper of the castle of Devizes in 1382. In the King's expedition to Scotlaud in 1385, with William de Botreaux [Lord Botreaux] and Richard de Seymour [Lord Seymour], he was in command of a detachment of 100 men-at-arms and 200 archers. In the same year he was a commissioner in the Scrope and Grosvenor trial. In 1386 complaint was made against him in Norfolk by Sir John Lestrange; in the revolt of the Duke of Gloucester in 1387 he was expelled from the court as an adherent of the King, and in the following year took oath that he would not enter the King's house until allowed to do so by Parliament. From 1389-1397 he was a trier of petitions in Parliament. In May 1390, as John, Lord Lovell, he joined in the King's letter to the Pope, protesting against papal provisions to benefices in England. He was commissioner of oyer and terminer, array, &c., in 1391 and later years. In 1393 he obtained licence to crenellate his manor house at Wardour, Wilts. In 1394 he was a commissioner to commandeer shipping for the King's service, and was retained to stay with the King for life, various grants being made to him. He accompanied the King to Ireland in April 1399, but in August of the same year was among the first to join Henry, Duke of Lancaster, at Chester, assented to the imprisonment of the deposed King, and accepted the accession of Henry IV, acting as trier of petitions in several Parliaments, and being constituted a member of the King's permanent Council 1403 and 1406. He was appointed constable of Corfe Castle in 1400, and in 1402 received the custody of Fremantle Park, near Southampton, and of the castle and town of Ludlow; and in the following year was chief commissioner to arrange as to the Scottish prisoners taken at Humbledon, and to survey and fortify the town of Southampton. K.G. circa 1405. In 1406 he took the oath to support the succession as entailed on the sons of Henry IV.

    He married, about 1372, Maud, daughter and heir of Robert DE HOLAND (who died v.p., in or before 1373), by Joan (or Alice). She, on the death of her grandfather Robert Holand [Lord Holand], 26 Mar. 1372/3, became, according to modern doctrine, BARONESS HOLAND. He died at Wardour, 10. September 1408. His will, in which he styles himself Dominus Lovell et de Holond, and desires to be buried in the church of St. John's Hospital near Brackley, Northants, was dated at Wardour 26 July, and proved there, 12 September 1408, by his widow (b). She died 7 May 1423. [Complete Peerage VIII:219-21, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (b) He bequeathed a black vestment with gold stars to St. John's Hospital. His son Robert m. (c. 1390) Elizabeth, daughter of Guy, son of Guy de Bryan. There is a portrait of this Lord Lovel receiving from Brother John Sifrewast a lectionary written for him c. 1400 and given by him to Salisbury Cathedral.

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    John Lovel & Maud Holand had 4 sons (John, Robert, Ralph (clerk), and Thomas). [Magna Carta Ancestry]




    Father: John 3rd Baron LOVEL , of Titchmarsh, Sir b: ABT SEP 1314 in Titchmarsh, Thrapston, Northamptonshire, England
    Mother: Isabel la ZOUCHE b: ABT 1322 in Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England

    Marriage 1 Maud 3rd Baroness de HOLAND b: ABT 1356 in Nether Kellet Manor, Lancashire, England
    • Married: ABT 1372 1 2 4
    Children
    1. Has Children John 6th Baron LOVEL , of Titchmarsh, Sir b: ABT 1373 in Titchmarsh, Thrapston, Northamptonshire, England
    2. Has Children Robert LOVEL , Sir b: ABT 1376 in Titchmarsh, Thrapston, Northamptonshire, England
    3. Has No Children Ralph LOVEL , Canon of Salisbury b: ABT 1386 in Titchmarsh, Thrapston, Northamptonshire, England
    4. Has Children Thomas LOVEL , of Clevedon b: ABT 1387 in Clevedon, Long Ashton, Somerset, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 215-32
    2. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
      Page: 3100
    3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: VI:532
    4. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: VIII:219-21
    5. Title: Magna Carta Ancestry, by Douglas Richardson, 2005, Genealogical Publishing Co.
      Page: 524
    6. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: VIII:219-21
      Text: of age by 8 June 1363
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