The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I11538
  • Name: Henry I de POMEROY , of Berry Pomeroy 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: Henry de la /Pomerai/
  • Birth: ABT 1110 in Berry Pomeroy, Totnes, Devon, England
  • Death: AFT 1167 in Great Torrington, Devon, England 2
  • Death: AFT 1156 in Berry Pomeroy, Totnes, Devon, England 3
  • Note:
    On the origin of the Pomeroy family in Normandy (and "still living" date for Henry):

    This all points strongly to La Pommeraye (Calvados) as the place in question, but the matter is put beyond doubt by a notification of Henry bishop of Bayeux, dated 1167, that Henry de la Pommeraye had in his presence confirmed the gifts of his father Joscelin to the abbey of Le Val-Notre-Dame, and had renounced all rights over the churches of Saint-Omer, Benoeil, Angoville, Le Bo, Cosseville, Saint-Clair, La Pommeraye and Placy; and all these places lie within 8 kil. of La Pommeraye (Calvados). [The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families]

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    The following information was supplied in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann AT yahoo.com:

    A little added info:
    Henry de Pomeray (sic), second son of Joel (sic), who m. a Natural daughter of King Henry I. gave the whole Village of Tale, in the Parish of Peh(or b)embury in the County of Devon, to the Abby of Ford, reserving several secular services, and a pair of gilt spurs to be paid yearly. [Ref: The Genealogical History of the Noble House of Courtenay, part III, book 1 p128] Note: "natural" is a euphamism for illegitimate. Also "Joel" appears to be an anglicization of "Joscelin"... Curt

    Re: ancestry of his wife Rohese
    I see you've taken the plunge re: the evidence that, were she a dau of Henry I, her dau as a grandchild of Henry I, couldn't marry her 1st cousin (another grandchild) of Henry I (or if so, records of papal dispensation would have been discovered). I tend to agree, but there has to be a major reason that some of the major sources still list her as a dau of Henry. In my database, I cheat & list 2 wives of Henry de la Pomeroy; one a dau of Henry I & the other a dau of Herbert fitzHerbert, both by Sybil (Lucy) de Corbet (with a note explaining the problem with Rohese's ancestry).

    Regards,
    Curt




    Father: Joscelin de POMEROY , of Berry Pomeroy, Sir b: ABT 1085 in Berry Pomeroy, Totnes, Devon, England

    Marriage 1 Rohese FITZHERBERT b: ABT 1115 in Blaen Llyfni, Brecknockshire, Wales
    • Married: BEF 1146 4
    Children
    1. Has Children Henry II de POMEROY , of Berry Pomeroy, Sir b: BEF 1146 in Berry Pomeroy, Totnes, Devon, England
    2. Has Children Miss de POMEROY b: ABT 1147 in Berry Pomeroy, Totnes, Devon, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 124a-29
      Text: Henry de la Pomerai
    2. Title: The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families, by Lewis C Loyd, 1999
      Page: 79
    3. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 124a-29
    4. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 195-26
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