The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I10898
  • Name: Thomas GROSVENOR , of Drayton 1
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1425 in Hulme in Allostock, Northwich, Cheshire, England
  • Birth: ABT 1410 1
  • Death: AFT 1460 in Drayton in Hales, Market Drayton, Shropshire, England
  • Note: Many people in World Connect have two Thomas Grosvenors in succession, the elder being son of Sir Robert of Hulme. However most have this Thomas's mother being Joan Venables. This does not fit with the Thomas who was son of Sir Robert, because according to Burke's Peerage that Thomas married Katherine Fesant (who outlived him and was therefore his last wife, and mother of his eldest children and therefore his first wife (ie. his only wife)). I feel that the date range between the eldest Thomas born c1277 and Randle born c1455 justifies three Thomases in succession. This allows for this Thomas to be son of Thomas & Joan Venables, while that Thomas was son of the Thomas identified in Burke's Peerage as married to Katherine Fesant.



    Father: Thomas GROSVENOR , of Hulme b: ABT 1400 in Hulme in Allostock, Northwich, Cheshire, England
    Mother: Joan VENABLES b: ABT 1400 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England

    Marriage 1 Isabella de PERSHALE b: ABT 1425 in Chetwynd, Newport, Shropshire, England
      Children
      1. Has Children Randall GROSVENOR , of Bellaport, Sir b: BET 1450 AND 1456 in Drayton in Hales, Market Drayton, Shropshire, England

      Sources:
      1. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Page: Bryant Smith, 3 Apr 2002
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