The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I10084
  • Name: Simon le SCROPE , of Flotmanby & Wensley 1
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: BEF 1184 in Flotmanby, Richmond, Yorkshire North Riding, England 2
  • Death: AFT 1225 in Wensley, Leyburn, Yorkshire North Riding, England 1
  • Note:
    SCR0PE (of Bolton)

    Observations.-The name appears in early charters as Scrop (often in its Gallicised form Escrop), or Lescrop. It is suggested that it is a personal nickname of old Norse origin meaning "crab"; and that this was probably believed in the family, as later members of it bore a crab as their crest; though Simon's seal, attached to the charter referred to in p. 533, note "d," is described by Nicolas as a griffin passant without wings. The occasional form "de Scrop" is certainly a clerical error when it occurs in connection with the North country family. The family arms, Azure a bend gold, are fully dealt with by Nicolas. In spite of the statements made by the deponents in the Scrope and Grosvenor controversy, there is no evidence remaining of the use of these arms by the family before the 13th century. The suggestion that the family might have derived from Richard Scrob or FitzScrob of Richard's Castle appears to have no foundation except the conjectures of the cellarer and sacristan of Bridlington and the prior of Bardney and one of his monks; who, having seen the name of Richard FitzScrob in ancient chronicles, had surmised that the line of their benefactors sprang from him. The theory that the family was connected with that of de Scrupes or de Crupes of Gloucestershire has been finally disposed of by C. T. Clay, who has given the most generous assistance in the preparation of the early part of this article.

    On the other hand, there need be no hesitation in connecting the Scropes of Flotmanby, Yorks, with the Scropes of North Lincolnshire; but the precise link is not established. There is only one certain line in the pedigree of Scrope of Barton. In 1166 a Robert Scrope is returned as holding a knight's fee of Earl Simon. He can be identified with the Robert, son of Richard Scrope and of his wife Agnes, daughter of Richard FitzGilbert of Clare and sister of Gilbert and Roger, Earls of Hertford, to whom Alice de Gant, "comitissa," daughter of Gilbert de Gant and wife of Earl Simon, confirmed all the land which his antecessores had held of her antecessores and of herself in Barton on Humber, namely, a quarter of the vill, to hold by service of half a knight's fee. Farrer assigned the date 1184-5 to this charter, but Mr. Clay has shown that it is probably much earlier. The other half fee held by Robert has not been conclusively identified, though it may, as Farrer has suggested, have lain in Flotmanby. From Robert, who may be the Robert Scrope of Barton who died at Acre in 1190, the holding in Barton, or part of it, descended in the male line through his son Walter to his great-greatgrandson Joice who died in 1304. In the 12th and early 13th centuries there were a number of Scropes holding in Barton and Flotmanby; but there is no satisfactory evidence to identify their holdings, or to determine their relationships. It can, however, be suggested with confidence that Philip Escrop and his brother Simon were members of the family whose senior line was represented by Robert Scrope of Barton on Humber in 1166. Philip Scrope was in 1194 assisting William de Stuteville in accounting for the revenues of the Archbishopric of York, and in 1201, 1202, and 1203 was acting as his deputy sherifT of Westmorland and Cumberland. In 1204 he was dead, being returned as responsible for a sum paid to the sheriff of Cumberland, for which his heirs were to answer. He married Alice, who survived him. His daughters by Alice were married, Maud to Thomas, son of Adelard de Willardby; and Alice to Ives, son of Walter de Staxton, also described as Ives de Willardby.

    SIMON LE SCROPE, of Flotmanby and Wensley, Yorks, brother of Philip Scrope of Flotmanby and of Barton-on-Humber, Lincs, is named, 1205, as a debtor for 4 li. in an account of the issues of the lands of William de Stuteville, and for 1/2 mark for leave to agree with the daughters of Philip Scrope. By virtue of a fine passed on 8 March 1204/5, confirmed later by a charter, Maud and Alice, daughters of Philip, conveyed to Simon lands in Flotmanby and other neighbouring places in Yorks. As Simon Scrope of Flotmanby he gave land in Flotmanby to Rievaulx Abbey, and in Flotmanby and Folkton to Bridlington Priory. He married Ingoliane, and, jointly with her, in or about 1225 executed a charter recording their grant to Henry, their son and heir, of the land in Wensley, Yorks, which they held of Osbert FitzNigel, lord of the vill of Wensley. According to the deposition of Simon, parson of Wensley, taken in 1386, he was buried in the churchyard of Wensley in the ancient fashion, in a stone coffin under a stone inscribed Cy gist Simond Lescrop, without a date. [Complete Peerage XI:531-3, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    NOTE: I have pieced an ancestry together for Simon from the above information. It may not be absolutely correct, but it is certainly better than the one that I previously had for Simon (which extended back to Richards Castle, debunked by the above CP article).

    Father: Robert le SCROPE , of Barton & Flotmanby, Sir b: BEF 1145 in Barton upon Humber, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England

    Marriage 1 Ingoliane (Ingoliana) b: ABT 1188 in Bracewell, Skipton, Yorkshire, England
      1. Has Children Henry le SCROPE , of Flotmanby & Wensley b: ABT 1215 in Flotmanby, Richmond, Yorkshire North Riding, England

      1. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
        Page: XI:532-3
      2. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
        Page: XI:531-2
        Text: responsible for debts in 1205 (of age)
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