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  • ID: I09969
  • Name: Maud de BEAUCHAMP 1 2 3
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: ABT 1134 in Elmley, Worcestershire, England
  • Death: 1181 in Tamworth Castle, Warwickshire, England
  • Note:
    He [Robert Marmion (who d. 1218)] married, 1stly, Maud DE BEAUCHAMP (j). [Complete Peerage VIII:509-10, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (j) Tamworth had been granted to William son of Walter de Beauchamp by the Empress Maud circa 1141. Round suggests that "in their rivalry for Tamworth, the Marmions embraced the cause of Stephen, and the Beauchamps that of Maud, their variance being terminated under Henry II by a matrimonial alliance." This alliance presumably took place before King Henry II's charter of 1155 to Robert Marmion the second, when his son Robert, afterwards the justice, could not have been more than a boy.

    Note: CP does not indicate the parents of Maud, merely hinting that she is a descendant of Walter de Beauchamp (I have him as grandfather). John Ravilious, in a post to soc.genealogy.medieval, has her as daughter of William de Beauchamp, d. 1170, and Maud de Braose.

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    While CP above has Maud being the 1st wife of Robert Marmion (the son), Alan Wilson, in a post to SGM, identifies Maud's ancestry and states she was married to Robert Marmion the father:

    Robert II Marmion, b. before 1133, d. circa 1181, m. Maud de Beauchamp, dau. of William de Beauchamp and Maud de Braose. About 1170/1175 Robert grants the church of Checkenden to the Priory of Coventry (Boarstall Cartulary No. 1). [Alan B. Wilson, SGM 14 Apr 1997]




    Father: William de BEAUCHAMP , of Elmley, Sir b: ABT 1105 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England
    Mother: Maud de BRAOSE b: ABT 1110 in Bramber, Sussex, England

    Marriage 1 Robert MARMION , of Scrivelsby & Tamworth b: BEF 1133 in Scrivelsby, Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England
      Children
      1. Has Children Robert MARMION , of Tamworth & Scrivelsby b: BEF 1153 in Tamworth Castle, Warwickshire, England
      2. Has Children Mabel MARMION b: ABT 1169 in Tamworth Castle, Warwickshire, England

      Sources:
      1. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
        Page: VIII:509-10
      2. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Page: John Ravilious (Therav3), 25 Sep 2002
      3. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Page: Alan B. Wilson, 14 Apr 1997
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