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  • ID: I09663
  • Name: John 1st Baron de FERRERS , of Chartley, Sir 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 20 JUN 1271 in Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales 1 3
  • Death: AUG 1312 in Gascony, France (poisoned) 1 4 3
  • Note:
    John de Ferrers, Lord Ferrers of Chartley, d. 1312. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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    BARONY OF FERRERS OF CHARTLEY (I) 1299

    SIR JOHN DE FERRERS, of Chartley, co. Stafford, Southoe and Keyston, Hunts, and Bugbrooke, Northants, son and heir of Sir Robert DE FERRERS, of Chartley, &c., formerly EARL OF DERBY (who died in 1279), by his 2nd wife, Alianore, daughter of Sir Humphrey DE BOHUN, of Kimbolton, Hunts, Walden and Debden, Essex, &c. (son and heir apparent of Humphrey, EARL OF HEREFORD). He was born at Cardiff, 20 June 1271. On 21 November 1293 the King took his homage, and he had livery of the lands which he inherited as heir of his grandmother, Margaret, Countess of Derby. In April 1294 he was about to go beyond seas, by the King's command, in attendance on Alianore, the King's daughter, lately married to Henry, Count of Bar. On 6 August 1294, after the death of Godfrey de Beaumont, he had livery of the manor of Bugbrooke, as heir of Cecily de Ferrers, sometime the wife of the said Godfrey. He had licence, 13 September 1294, to demise to Robert de Bures the manor of Chartley, for the life of the said Robert. In January 1296/7 he was about to go to Brabant, by the King's command, in attendance on Margaret, the King's daughter, wife of Jan, Duke of Lothier and Brabant. He was the principal supporter of the Earls of Hereford and Norfolk in their quarrel with the King in 1297. He made an attempt to regain the lands which had been forfeited by his father's rebellion, and petitioned the Pope to permit him to borrow money from prelates and other ecclesiastics in order to redeem these lands by paying the required sum, 50,000, to the Earl of Lancaster. But on 10 August 1301 the King prohibited him, on pain of forfeiting all that he could forfeit, from prosecuting in Court Christian a plea concerning a lay fief, and ordered him to cause his plea to be revoked, and to be before the King from Michaelmas in three weeks to receive what should be just in the matter, as the cognizance of such a plea pertained to the King's Court. In December following he was ordered to be before the King in the octaves of St. Hilary to show cause why he had, against his homage, called on the Earl of Lancaster to answer in Court Christian concerning certain lay fiefs in the realm. He was summoned for Military Service, from May 1297 to 28 May 1311, to attend the Coronation, 18 January 1307/8, to a Council 8 January 1308/9, and to Parliament from 6 February 1298 /9 to 19 December 1311, by writs directed Johanni de Ferariis, Ferrariis, or Ferers, whereby he is held to have become LORD FERRERS. He was in Scotland on the King's service in 1298 and 1303, and was Constable of the Army of Scotland in 1306. He was granted the custody of Gloucester Castle, 24 September 1311, for a term. On 24 January 1311/2 he was appointed Seneschal of Gascony, at a yearly salary of 2,000 livres tournois, equivalent to 500 sterling.

    He married, between 2 February 1297/8 and 13 September 1300, Hawise, daughter and heir of Sir Robert DE MUSCEGROS, of Stowell, Norton, and Charlton, Somerset, Kemerton and Boddington, co. Gloucester, Hampstead and Aldworth, Berks, by Agnes, his wife (c). She was widow of William DE MORTEMER, of Bridgwater, Milverton, and Odcombe, Somerset, Crendon, Bucks, &c. (a younger son of Sir Roger de Mortemer, of Wigmore, co. Hereford), who died s.p. shortly before 30 June 1297, but this marriage had not been consummated. On 12 and 17 July 1302 John de Ferrers and Hawise had livery of the lands of Cecily de Muscegros, her grandmother (who died shortly before 10 August 1301), the King having taken his homage therefor. When Seneschal of Gascony, he had serious differences (graves dissensiones et discordie), from which tumults had arisen, with Amanieu, Sire d'Albret, and other magnates, and on 5 August 1312 John and Amanieu were ordered to appear before a commission appointed to settle the dispute; finally, 16 and 19 August, they were ordered to come before the King wherever he might be in England, to make peace in the royal presence: but about this time, probably in August 1312, John died in Gascony, of poison, it was said, at the age of 41. His widow married Sir John de BURES. In 1329 and 1330 they made dispositions dealing with all, or nearly all, of her cstates. She, who was born 21 December 1276, was living, 24 June 1340, but died before him. He died at Boddington, 21 or 22 December 1350. [Complete Peerage V:305-10, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (c) According to the usual account, this Agnes was daughter of William, Earl of Derby, by his 2nd wife, Margaret de Quency. This is obviously impossible, for it would make John and Hawise first cousins.

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    John de Ferrers, only son of Robert de Ferrers, 8th and last Earl of Derby of that family, after the forfeiture of his father, was summoned to parliament as Baron Ferrers of Chartley, co. Stafford, 6 February, 1299, a seat which came into the family of Ferrers by the marriage of William, 5th Earl of Derby, with Agnes, sister and co-heir of Ranulph, Earl of Chester. This John, inheriting the turbulent spirit of his father, joined the Earl of Hertford and others in the 25th Edward I [1297] in opposing the collection of the subsidies granted by the parliament then held at St. Edmundsbury, to the crown, but the ferment was allayed by the king's confirming Magna Carta and the charter of the Forests, and by declaring that, in future, no tax should be imposed upon the subject without the consent of parliament, and at the same time granting a pardon to the discontented lords and their adherents, in which pardon John de Ferrers is especially named. Soon after this he petitioned Pope Nicholas III that his holiness should interfere to procure him the lands of his late father which had been conferred upon Edmund, Earl of Lancaster, but his suit was ineffectual. He was subsequently in the Scottish wars and was then raised to the peerage as stated above. His lordship m. Hawyse, dau. and heiress of Sir Robert de Muscegros, of Charlton, co. Somerset, by whom he acquired a great increase to his fortune. In the 34th Edward I [1306], he was again in the wars of Scotland and, subsequently, in the 4th Edward II [1311], the year following which he was constituted seneschal of Aquitaine. He d. in 13424 and was s. by his son, Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Baron Ferrers, of Chartley. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 199, Ferrers, Barons Ferrers of Chartley]




    Father: Robert de FERRERS , 6th\Last Earl of Derby b: ABT 1239 in Tutbury, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
    Mother: Eleanor (Alianore) de BOHUN b: ABT 1248 in Hay Castle, Hay on Wye, Breconshire, Wales

    Marriage 1 Hawise de MUSCEGROS b: 21 DEC 1276 in Charlton Musgrove, Wincanton, Somerset, England
    • Married: BEF 13 SEP 1300 in 2nd husband 5 6
    Children
    1. Has No Children John 2nd Baron de FERRERS , of Chartley b: AFT 8 AUG 1300 in Chartley Castle, Staffordshire, England
    2. Has Children Eleanore de FERRERS b: ABT 1305 in Chartley, Staffordshire, England
    3. Has Children Robert 3rd Baron de FERRERS , of Chartley, Sir b: 25 MAR 1309 in Chartley Castle, Staffordshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 57-31
    2. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 57-5
    3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
      Page: V:305-10
    4. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 57-5
      Text: 1312
    5. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 57-31
      Text: bef. 1300
    6. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 57-5
      Text: Bet. 2 Feb 1297/98 - 13 Sep 1300
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