The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest

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  • ID: I09515
  • Name: John (Smith) BLAND
  • Sex: M
  • ALIA: John (Bland) /Smith/
  • Birth: ABT 1578 in Colchester, Essex, England
  • Death: 6 JAN 1667/68 in Edgartown, Martha's Vineyard, MA
  • Event: Bullet IMMIGRANT
  • Note:
    The following "TAG" information is copied from Bill Prokasy, World Connect db=wprokasy. Bill has John's wife as Isabella Drake (along with an ancestry for her) and his mother as Adrian (no last name), but no other ancestry for John Bland (AKA Smith). The source that Bill has for Adrian being John's mother is "Philip Towle, Hampton, New Hampshire: His English origins and Some American Descendants" by William Haslet Jones:

    From TAG, 16:20: John Bland was one of the earliest settlers of Martha's Vineyard, having owned land there as early as 1646. He frequently called himself John Smith, this even prior to arrival in New England. Probate records include the John Smith name.

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    The following information was copied from Carrie Strong, World Connect db=strong. I originally had John's parents as James Smith & Adrian Chadwick, based on Susan Johanson whose source was a WFT from Broderbond (not a particularly good source, although I consider Susan's information generally excellent). I have changed his parents to agree with Carrie's information below with James Smith as a step-father (although Carrie's data base itself does not reflect it), whose source seems better. Carrie used as a source: "Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire F18.N68", by Sybil Noyes, Charles Libby, and Walter Davis:

    John (Smith) Bland used the name Smith in Watertown, MA and Bland in Martha's Vineyard.-- -GENDEX. Why is partially explained in the following statement: "John Bland, alias Smith, was living at Edgerton on Martha's Vineyard in 1646, undoubtedly the John Smith associated with the Mayhews in the first movement from Watertown to the Island, where he was always Bland. In Watertown lived his mother Adrian, 2d widow of Jeremiah Norcross and there is recorded Isabel, wife of John Smith, bur. 12 July 1639, age 60. (sic. everybody including Carrie has Isabel's death date as 12 Oct 1639.) The Hampton Drakes attest that they knew his daughter, Isabel Bland, from childhood, that her father, John Bland lived in Colchester and that his ancestry was Bland, not Smith. Apparently his stepfather was Smith. His will made 2 Nov 1663 names " wife Joanna and all the children that are alive that I owne: Isabel m. 1st Francis Austin, 2nd Thomas Leavitt; Annabel m. William Barsham of Watertown, eldest son of John.

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    NOTE: The Bland/Smith ancestry is hard to verify, probably because there are so many John Smiths. Bill Prokasy, in the following e-mail, states that at least one source identifies the above will as belonging to a different John Smith of Lynn who later moved to Reading. The will itself does not give one confidence that Francis was the son of the maker of the will, as it only mentions two daughters (Isabel & Annabel). Of cource Francis was dead by then, so he may not have been mentioned (but his children might have been). Bill Prokasy has also suggested that maybe the John Smith of Watertown & Martha's Vineyard may have been a son of the John (Smith) Bland, as the latter would have been fairly old (late 60's) to have moved in 1646.

    "Jim...
    Thanks for the response. I've been relooking at some of that material and have encountered a puzzle or two that I've not been able to resolve. Anthony as the father of John (Smith) Bland is a new one to me, and only deepens the puzzle a bit.. Another interesting one is the use of Chadwick: I don't know for sure, but the Chadwick name for Adrian seems to have come from the will of Jeremiah Norcross who mentions his 'brother' Charles Chadwick...the inference being that he is a brother-in-law with Adrian as his sister. Not strong evidence, but plausible. However, that raises the real puzzle: the John Smith (presumed to be John Bland) who is listed in Jeremiah's will as a son. Curiously enough the Pioneers of Massachusetts, p. 330 makes reference to that will, but the John Smith they point to is not the John (Smith) Bland of Watertown, but John Smith of Lynn who later moved to Reading.. If you have that book, take a look at p. 330 and p. 421.

    Bill"




    Father: Anthony BLAND b: ABT 1554 in London, Middlesex, England
    Mother: Adrian CHADWICK b: ABT 1560 in Colchester, Essex, England

    Marriage 1 Thomasine FOSTER b: ABT 1578 in Colchester, Essex, England
    • Married: in 1st wife
    Children
    1. Has No Children Mary BLAND b: BEF 1597 in Colchester, Essex, England

    Marriage 2 Isabella DRAKE b: ABT 1579 in Elmstead, Essex, England
    • Married: 1597 in Colchester, Essex, England
    Children
    1. Has Children Francis (Bland) SMITH b: 8 MAR 1599/00 in Colchester, Essex, England

    Marriage 3 Joanna b: ABT 1593
    • Married: AFT 1639 in 3rd wife
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