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  • ID: I09126
  • Name: John FITZGERALD , 6th Earl of Kildare, Sir 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1365 in Castletown, Kildrought, Kildare, Ireland
  • Death: ABT 1456 3
  • Death: BEF 10 JUL 1435 1
  • Note:
    John Fitz Maurice "Cam" ("Crouchback") FitzGerald, of Castletown-Kildrought, Co Kildare, de jure 6th Earl of Kildare, as which according to modern doctrine almost certainly succeeded his elder brother [Gerald, 5th Earl] since he was undoubtedly living Aug 1425, though never referred to in contemporary records, the 4th Earl of Ormond having seized his lands on the pretext that he had a right to them through his wife [Gerald, 5th Earl's daughters Joan & Elizabeth both married the 4th Earl of Ormonde]; allegedly married 1st Margaret Delaherne; probably married (2nd?) Rose Basset, on whom his trustees settled lands (after his death?) 10 July 1435, and had [Thomas], presumably by her. [Burke's Peerage]

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    Note:CP, below, has two Johns where BP has one.

    The difficulties of proving the succession at this point are much enhanced by the great gaps in the rolls of the Irish Chancery for this period. No official record has been found of John as Earl, who is placed here as 6th Earl on the authority of two statements: (a) A translation kindly furnished by H. Egan Kennedy, Librarian of the Dail, from O'Clery's 'Book of Genealogies': "The son of Thomas was the 8th Earl of Kildare. The son of John Cam was the 7th Earl, the daughter of Lord Burbaes was his wife. The son of Maurice was the 6th Earl, whose son was Garret the Earl, that is the 5th Earl. The son of Thomas was the 4th Earl." (b) The 'Four Masters (an. 1454): "The Earldom of Kildare was taken by the son of John Cam son of the Earl, and he was made Justice after Sir Edward Eustace." Hitherto John, "Cam" and John 6th Earl of Kildare have been regarded as one and the same person, but chronology suggests, and the above statements seem to imply, that John 6th Earl was brother of Gerald 5th Earl and son of Maurice 4th Earl, and father of John "Cam", father of Thomas 7th Earl. There is a gap in the history of the Earldom from the Death of Gerald 5th Earl in 1432 to the succession of Thomas 7th Earl circa 1456. It seems possible that John, 6th Earl, survived until the succession of Thomas, 7th Earl. A John FitzMorris, of Castletown and Kildrought, was certainly carrying out land transactions in 1436. [Complete Peerage VII:227-8 as corrected by XIV:411]

    EARLDOM OF KILDARE [IRL] (VI)

    JOHN (FITZGERALD), EARL OF KILDARE [IRL], brother and heir. On 9 June 1409 he was appointed a Justice of the peace in Kildare; and on 26 April 1421 the King, "on account of his gentle blood and no small poverty," excused John, son of Maurice late Earl of Kildare, from the payment of fines for intrusion on the manors of Kildrought and Kilmacredock---Kildare family manors. According to Lodge, this John married Margaret de la Herne; but according to the pedigrees above referred to, he married a "daughter of Basset." (c) The date of his death is unknown. [Complete Peerage VII:228, XIV:411, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (c) E.M. Boyle writes: "Ollery says she was a daughter of a butcher", and O'Ferrall says she was a daughter of Lord Bourchier.




    Father: Maurice FITZGERALD , 4th Earl of Kildare b: 7 JUN 1321 in Castletown, Kildrought, Kildare, Ireland
    Mother: Elizabeth de BURGHERSH b: ABT 1332 in Burghersh, Chiddingstone, Kent, England

    Marriage 1 Miss BOURCHIER b: ABT 1370 in Stansted Hall, Halstead, Essex, England
      Children
      1. Has Children John "Cam\Crouchback" FITZGERALD b: ABT 1395 in Castletown, Kildrought, Kildare, Ireland
      2. Has Children Margaret FITZGERALD b: ABT 1400 in Castletown, Kildrought, Kildare, Ireland

      Sources:
      1. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
        Page: 1679
      2. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
        Page: VII:228
      3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
        Page: VII:228 corrrected by XIV:441
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