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  • ID: I08799
  • Name: John III "The Red" COMYN , Lord of Badenoch 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1269 in Inverlochy Castle, Fort William, Inverness, Scotland
  • Death: 10 FEB 1305/06 in Murdered in church by Robert the Bruce (King Robert I) 3 4
  • Burial: Church of the Grey Friars, Dumfries, Scotland
  • Note:
    The following is from 'Family Annals' by John Russel, as provided by Sally Walmsley of NSW (Aus):

    In 1306, the titular King of Scotland was John Baliol, a 'lamb among wolves' who had achieved the throne through the backing of Edward of England and John Comyn of Badenoch, head of the most powerful family in Scotland at that time. Baliol had fled to France with no intention of returning, leaving Scotland virtually kingless. Robert the Bruce had seemingly started planning his rising in 1304, but everything hinged upon the support of John Comyn, a difficult person: the Red comyn must either support Bruce or be dead. The climax came in 1306, when Bruce met the Comyn in Greyfriars church in Dumfries. As they stood before the alter and argued, knives were drawn, and John Comyn fell wounded. According to legend, Bruce ran out of the church crying 'I doubt I have slain the Red Comyn'. Kilpatrick answered his "Do you so doubt? Then I'll mak siccar', and rushed into the church followed by Sir Robert Boyd and finished the job. Legendary as this may be, the fact is that both John Comyn of Badenoch and Sir Robert Comyn were both killed.

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    Father: John II "The Black" COMYN , Lord of Badenoch b: ABT 1242 in Badenoch, Inverness, Scotland
    Mother: Eleanor (Alianora) de BALIOL b: 1246 in Barnard Castle, Gainford, Durham, England

    Marriage 1 Joan de VALENCE b: ABT 1269 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales
    • Married: BEF 1291 in Badenoch, Inverness, Scotland 5
    Children
    1. Has Children Joan COMYN b: ABT 1291 in Badenoch, Invernesshire, England
    2. Has Children John IV COMYN , of Badenock, Sir b: ABT 1295 in Inverlochy Castle, Fort William, Inverness, Scotland
    3. Has Children Elizabeth COMYN b: 1 NOV 1299 in Badenoch, Inverness, Scotland

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 84a-31, 95-30
    2. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 141-4
    3. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 95-30
    4. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
      Page: 141-4
      Text: 1306
    5. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Leo van de Pas, 31 Dec 1998
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